It already did--it's called the catholic church.
2007-10-12 09:58:30
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answered by Anonymous
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Since all true prophecy comes from the same Source, it is all interlinked. Being thus, you can’t pull out one piece in isolation and hope to understand its true meaning, for a “text without context is merely a pretext.”
This is a large topic, but I shall try to condense it. I hope my "Reader’s Digest" version inspires you to look further: to read the Book and so see the much bigger picture.
What is being described in 2 Thess 2:3-12, is a general “falling away” or “apostasia” - apostasy - within Christianity. Paul says it was already at work in his own day as a grass-roots influence, and would culminate in an organisational structure that would take over the church and attempt to usurp God’s authority over His people.
Paul notes that this false organisational structure under a single leader would arise when a restraining power had been removed, and that it would then continue until the end, when it would be destroyed by the events of Christ’s return.
This Scripture draws strongly on the book of Daniel, notably: chs 11:31-45; 12:1-3. These references in turn rely for their context upon the progressive expansions of Daniel chs: 2, 7 and 8. There are also contemporaneous resonances to the same events all through the book of Revelation as well as the record of Christ’s final discourse on the Mt of Olives prior to His crucifixion. It is worth noting that the Saviour specifically refers to the prophecy of Daniel as the key to understanding what He is talking about (Matt 24:15).
Thus we may infer that this was a well-known topic in the first century church and that it was based on an understanding of the prophecies of Daniel.
According to Daniel, there would be five political empires that would dominate God’s people until the final establishment of His Kingdom: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome and lastly, a fragmented Roman coalition dominated by a different kind of power. (Dan 7:8, 20)
At the time of Paul’s writing, he said that the rise of the apostate organisational structure within the church was being prevented by a stronger power, and that the corrupt spiritual system would arise when that power was removed. This resonates with Revelation 13:2, where the dragon (pagan Rome) gives its power, seat and great authority to a composite power. Historically this seems to have been fulfilled when the Roman Emperor Constantine moved the capital to Constantinople and left the Bishop of Rome as administrator of the city of Rome.
With its secular focus in the east, the spiritual interests of the fragmenting Empire were assumed by the successive Bishops of Rome. Having accepted the traditional “seat” of the Caesars, they resorted to political manipulation and intrigues to maintain temporal and spiritual control over the “partly strong and partly weak” coalition of Europe. (Dan 2:42)
It always has and always will be the way of religion, as spirituality declines, to replace the lack with appearances, traditions and formality. Christ said that the weeds would grow amongst the wheat until the harvest and that it was not up to us to root them out, lest in so doing we mistakenly destroy precious wheat. (Matt 13:29-30) Such separation is the work of the last Judgement.
Where there is a revival, there too is the tendency to apostasy. At the personal level, self is always ready to steal the heart’s throne and sit in the soul-temple claiming to be God. (2 Thess 2:4)
2007-10-12 14:28:22
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answered by Anonymous
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The Great Apostasy is a term used by some religious groups to allege a general fallen state of traditional Christianity, or especially of Catholicism, magisterial Protestantism and Eastern Orthodoxy, that it is not representative of the faith founded by Jesus and promulgated through his twelve Apostles: in short, that these churches have fallen into apostasy.
Most significant non-Anglican, non-Catholic and non-Orthodox Christian denominations have formally taught that at some point in history, the original teachings and practices of the primitive or original Christian church were greatly altered. All of these denominations have considered their own teachings as major corrections of the errors of the state of Christianity preceding them, and for this reason believe that their separated continuation, especially outside of the Catholic-Orthodox-Anglican traditions, is not only justifiable, but a necessary measure. These views are not necessarily taught in the modern descendant denominations; but historically this type of doctrinal stance accounts for the continuing separation of the denominations from the Anglican, Catholic and Orthodox communions.
2007-10-12 10:00:30
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answered by Justsyd 7
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2016-11-08 03:18:53
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answered by Anonymous
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It may be the case in some rich countries. Some places like Brazil are very hot with revival. In Europe many are falling for mere materialism, atheism, and all sorts of plausible religious beliefs.
2007-10-12 10:37:15
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answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7
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I agree with Andrew. The Roman Catholic Church contends that its origin is the death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ in approximately 30 A.D. The Catholic Church proclaims itself to be the Church that Jesus Christ died for, the Church that was established and built by the Apostles. Is that the true origin of the Catholic Church? On the contrary. Even a cursory reading of the New Testament will reveal that the Catholic Church does not have its origin in the teachings of Jesus, or His apostles. In the New Testament, there is no mention of the papacy, worship / adoration of Mary (or the immaculate conception of Mary, the perpetual virginity of Mary, the assumption of Mary, or Mary as co-redemptrix and mediatrix), petitioning saints in Heaven for their prayers, apostolic succession, the ordinances of the church functioning as sacraments, infant baptism, confession of sin to a priest, purgatory, indulgences, or the equal authority of church tradition and Scripture.
The Catholic Church is as close as you can come to pure apostasy.
2007-10-12 09:58:45
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answered by LineDancer 7
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next week on thursday at 319 am
and the apostasy by behemoth is a great album slaying the prohets of isa and pazuzu and kriegs philosophy and christ grinding avenue are my favorite songs of of that album
2007-10-12 10:01:44
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answered by Anonymous
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When it happens.
It occurs 30 days after the abomination of desolation. See http://www.bcbsr.com/survey/revtim.html
2007-10-12 11:11:23
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answered by Steve Amato 6
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What "Great Apostasy" are you talking about? Please post scripture stating this. I bet you most like do not know where the Bible states this and you will most likely quote scripture that says nothing to support this "GreatApostasy" claim.
2007-10-12 10:07:24
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answered by Anonymous
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It started as soon as it became the state religion in the 4th century.
2007-10-12 12:02:31
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answered by Isolde 7
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