Is there such a charge as attempted theft other questions?

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A guy came into the store last week and tried to con us into giving him a free ink cartridge saying that we gave the wrong person his which was impossible. he had a unique last name. he fought with me for a full hour and a half over it. Plus there were so any inconsistancies in his story. He said that we did things that we never do.
Well yesterday he tried to do the same thing to my boss. He couldn't keep his story straight. My boss kept an eye on him throughout the store and realized that he must be a master to this conning/stealing thing for quite sometime.
We've never exactly caught this guy stealing something but we've caught him many times in the act trying to. With the ink cartridges he even said to me, "I'm not paying for this." I feel this guy needs to be stopped. Is there anything he can be charged with.
Also during his arguement with me he said that he works for the police department which I highly doubt.

When I was a kid my friend's dad was a cop and he told me that when you're a cop you have to avoid breaking any laws, including traffic laws or your job is on the line. Is any of that true?

yesterday was he first time we actually noticed this guy's cons.
When he wanted to return something I asked my boss to handle it when usually I do. My boss pictured him as a really dangerous guy along with 2 other employees. My boss later asked me why I wouldn't handle the return and I told my boss that it's the same guy from the ink incident last week.

Just to let you know. When he told me that he wasn't going to pay for the ink cartridge, he dared me to call the cops on him.

I just found out today from my boss that in both instances he used 2 different names.

Answer 1

Yes, call the police and tell them that you want this person officially given notice that he is NOT welcome in your store EVER again. Once he is given that notice by the police, then if he returns to the store, he can be very easily arrested for criminal trespassing.

The guy sounds like a con artist and most likely the police have a record(s) of his prior attempts.

It is possible to arrest someone for "attempted theft", but you will need some physical evidence to help you prove that, like in-store monitors, or independent witnesses.

As for police officers, yes, they are expected to be 100% an example to their community. While a traffic ticket won't get an officer into any significant trouble, a criminal offense such as theft would certainly jeopardize the officer's job. Your suspect however, is an idiot. He's not a cop, judging from your description.

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Is there such a charge as attempted theft other questions?
A guy came into the store last week and tried to con us into giving him a free ink cartridge saying that we gave the wrong person his which was impossible. he had a unique last name. he fought with me for a full hour and a half over it. Plus there were so any inconsistancies in his story. He said...

Answer 3

Attempted Theft

Answer 4

No there is no charge such as attempted theft. You need to kick the guy out of the store and tell him not to come back or he the police will be called. Thats it.

Answer 5

Yes, all you need is the intent and the attempt. Once you've commited the act then it's the actual charge of the act. So, if you attempt a homicide in CA. It would be 664/187.
Once the person dies, its a 187.
664 in CA is the Penal Code for Attempted.
I don't know what he can be charged with. But maybe you can get a restraining order against him for harrassment of some kind. But you would need to file a report on this incident, so I would call the police dept.

Answer 6

This sounds like attempted fraud. It is illegal, but it might me difficult to prove. Basically it is your word against his. If he comes back, you might want to ask him to put is grievances in writing. If he lies in writing and you can prove it you will have a good case. Don't put up with him for an hour and a half. If you are stern with him, I have the feeling he will look for an easier mark. You can tell him to leave the store if you feel he has no legitimate business there. If he persists, call the police. I would just say,

"We need to see your story in writing before we replace your ink cartridge. This is a place of business. We don't have time to argue with you, so if you don't want to buy anything you are going to have to leave."

Con men often attempt to pass themselves off as being affiliated with the police. If he said he was a police officer and he is not, this is an criminal offense. I notice he only said he works for the police. You might offer to call the police so some of his work buddies can stop by and visit him while he is bothering you.

A police officer who breaks the law while on or off duty can be thrown off the force. If the officer committed a serious offense it is almost a certainty. It is very important for a police officer not to break laws. Your con-man is no cop.

Take him up on his dare next time. Call the police. You might even want to have somebody in the back room do it without his knowledge. Agree on a phony code phase that you would never actually say, but that sounds very routine. This code phrase will serve as a signal to let a coworker know that the con man is in the store and they need to call the police. It might be something like a request to order a product that you don't carry. If you go this route, don't tell him to leave. Try to keep him in the store until the police arrive. When they get there I bet his demeanor will change completely. You might even want to notify the police before hand. Let them know that a man has been trying to con you, and you would like them to come and talk to him the next time he does it.

Answer 7

Attempted theft or robbery, or robbery by deceit.

It is difficult to prosecute, such cases as they are difficult to prove in court, beyond the reasonable doubt.

The policeman have to maintain very clean record. So what he said is true.

Answer 8

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answer: Possibly because you used the words "stole" and "Christianity" in the same sentence. Many of them don't acknowledge the pagan roots of Christianity and the fact that the religion has more in common with paganism than Judaism. Enough of them took offense to get the question deleted. Appeal the violation. Point out logically, exactly how it was a question and it wasn't insulting (or whatever reason Y gives you). # # # I believe I answered the question that I'm not angry at Christians. I do try and point out that the holidays (and most rituals and trappings) in Christianity were originally pagan.

Answer 9

He may work for the police department but telling you..... that was his downfall because; yes it's a crime to steal and if you take something and get caught but don't leave with it it's up to the store manager to decide if you will face charges. But as a person that works in or for law inforcement, he's is expected to demonstrate a greater respect for the law. So if you report him to the police department they can tell you if he works for them as well as counsel him about the laws regarding aggravated harassment and other charges that your boss could charge him with just in the way that he is presenting himself. He may be in dispatch but he still is has to adhere to the rules of a policeman. Call your police department and ask to speak to an officer and tell them what's going on. make sure you have his name. If you can it would be nice to know what he does for the police as well as a recording lying saying that he was one.

Answer 10

Well, during that mention of the police dept. Did anyone ask to see his I.D., or his name - to confirm that info with the P.D? If not...then if he's stupid enough to try it again...that's the first thing I would get from him. And legally, you can ask him to leave (being that your store has the legal right to refuse service to anyone). And if he refuses...then call the police and charge him with illegal trespass for not leaving the property upon request.