Catholics, when did the Catholic Bible ADD the apocraphy???

Question

I know that it wasn't there from the beginning. Sometime in history they added it, saying it was 'part of the bible'. So when did they ADD it? You know, the Malcubees and all those other books?

How does Tobiah have anything to do with God?

Answer 1

The New Testament canon of the Catholic Bible and the Protestant Bible are the same with 27 Books.

The difference in the Old Testaments actually goes back to the time before and during Christ’s life. At this time, there was no official Jewish canon of scripture.

The Jews in Egypt translated their choices of the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek in the second century before Christ. This translation of 46 books, called the Septuagint, had wide use in the Roman world because most Jews lived far from Palestine in Greek cities. Many of these Jews spoke only Greek.

The early Christian Church was born into this world. The Church, with its bilingual Jews and more and more Greek-speaking Gentiles, used the books of the Septuagint as its Bible. Remember the early Christians were just writing the documents what would become the New Testament.

After the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, with increasing persecution from the Romans and competition from the fledgling Christian Church, the Jewish leaders came together and declared its official canon of Scripture, eliminating seven books from the Septuagint.

The books removed were Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom (of Solomon), Sirach, and Baruch. Parts of existing books were also removed including Psalm 151 (from Psalms), parts of the Book of Esther, Susanna (from Daniel as chapter 13), and Bel and the Dragon (from Daniel as chapter 14).

The Christian Church did not follow suit but kept all the books in the Septuagint. 46 + 27 = 73 Books total.

1500 years later, Protestants decided to keep the Catholic New Testament but change its Old Testament from the Catholic canon to the Jewish canon.

The books that were removed supported such things as
+ Prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45)
+ Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7)
+ Intercession of saints in heaven (2 Maccabees 15:14)
+ Intercession of angels (Tobit 12:12-15)

The books they dropped are sometimes called the Apocrypha.

Here is a Catholic Bible website: http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/

With love in Christ.

Answer 2

The Apocrypha (απόκρυφα means "hidden") is a set of books written between approximately 400 B.C. and the time of Christ. These books are Tobit, Judith, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach (also known as Ecclesiasticus), and Baruch. It wasn't added, it was always there. Read on.

The authorities that were mainly responsible for establishing Holy Scripture were the Councils of Hippo and of Carthage in the fourth century, and the Pope Innocent I in 405, and Pope Gelasius in 494, who issued lists of Sacred Scripture identical with that fixed by the Councils in the 4th century. From that date all through the centuries this was the one and only Christian's Bible.

The Church never admitted any other books; and at the Council of Florence in the fifteenth century, and the Council of Trent in the sixteenth, and the Council of the Vatican in the nineteenth, the Church simply rules against all who should deny or dispute this collection of books as the inspired word of God, there were no changes made to the Catholic Bible after the 4th Century.

After the reformation, Protestant churches removed seven books of the Old Testament because they did not suit the new doctrines and opinions of Luther, Calvin, and the Swiss and German Reformers. Even in regard to the New Testament it required all the powers of resistance on the part of the more con¬servative Reformers to prevent Luther from flinging out the Epistle of St. James as unworthy to remain within the volume of Holy Scripture—'an Epistle of straw' he called it, 'with no character of the Gospel in it'. The Catholic Church believes that no person has the right to cut and carve out a Bible, and a Religion for yourself. No Pope, no Council, no Church shall enlighten you or dictate the doctrines of Christ. Anyone who does presents a corruption of God's Holy Word.

Answer 3

Catholic Crusader, actually the Greeks gave us the New Testament... it was written in Greek and carried through the Eastern part of the Roman Empire first.

And in order of oldest to newest denominations, it is: Coptic, Eastern Orthodox, Catholic, then the various Protestant denominations. Were it not for the Counter-Reformation, the Catholics and Eastern Orthodox would be "the same age."

But the Apocrypha was always a part of the Old Testament, to answer the question. If you want a complete Bible, you need to find one that includes those books.

Answer 4

When did the Protestants drop them? Shouldn't that be your question?

Did you know that the original KJV had the Deuterocanonical Books?

Did you know that the Pharisee Counncil of Jamnia after the year 70 dropped those books and they were attacking the acceptance by Jews of Paul's Letters as Scriptural?

Did you knoww that Luther and others of the Reformers wanted Maccabees out of the Bible because they contradicted him in teaching praying for the dead and the intercession of executed martyrs for the living?

Did you know that there were many canons of the OT in Jesus time(Samaritan,Saducee-Torah only ,Essene, and Alexandrian?

Did you know that the Alexandrian Septuaguint LXX translation ,whose canon is the Early Christian/Catholic one, is the version and Greek translation of the OT most quoted in the NT?
God bless

Answer 5

First, enable me discuss that i'm a Protestant, not a Catholic. notwithstanding it truly is purely straightforward to admit that the label "Apocrypha" (which actual skill "hidden") is somewhat stretch at the same time as utilized to those books. they were portion of the Christian Bible from the first century, because Christians in general relied on the Greek translation of Hebrew scripture (the Septuagint) produced in Alexandria a pair centuries earlier Christ, and it coated them. the first-century writers of the hot testomony quoted the Septuagint. It changed into their reference for Hebrew scripture, and it coated those books. The Orthodox and Catholic church homes call them "deuterocanonical"; this attractiveness that they were a separate "2d canon" contemplated the very undeniable reality that the Jews not known them--in many situations because the Hebrew originals were misplaced. Protestants chosen to leave them out of their formal canon, and that they had sturdy reason: for one component, compared to Catholics, Protestants wanted all believers to study the Bible, and printing with movable form changed into purely making that achieveable. scaling down the quantity of cloth changed into economically a sturdy idea. And it turned right into a sturdy idea; they don't look of quite a similar high quality or usefulness because the conventional Hebrew scripture. notwithstanding the decision to bypass over them turned right into a sparkling idea, originating with Protestants. For the first millennium and a 1/2 of Christian heritage, they were portion of all Christian Bibles.

Answer 6

For the record, it was the Catholic Church that first assembled the canon of scripture- under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Without the Catholic Church, there would be NO BIBLE.

Having said that, we- Catholics- added NOTHING to the original canon of scripture.

The PROTESTANTS took books OUT!!! WHy??? Because they were 'too CATHOLIC!'

Answer 7

Whoa, girl, do you mean Apocrypha and Maccabees??


Be right back...you are incorrect..

The Catholic OT Canon includes - Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, I and II Maccabees - plus sections of Esther and Daniel which are absent from the Protestant OT. Protestant Christians do not accept these Writings as inspired by God and refer to them as the "Apocrypha".

Before the 2nd century, most Palestian Jews preferred a canon loosely similar to the Protestant OT; however, the Greek-speaking Jews preferred the larger canon found in the Greek Septuagint Bible - a 2nd-century B.C. Greek translation of the Hebrew Scripture. It was the "Bible" for the Greek-speaking Jews. When the Apostles began to evangelize the Greek-speaking Jews and Gentiles, they used the already established Septuagint as their Bible. Using the Hebrew Scripture would have been as effective as using a Russian Bible to evangelize Americans. The Septuagint served to bridge the culture gap. Quickly the Greek-speaking converts outnumbered the Hebrew Christians. Scholars also recognize that the NT writers quoted extensively from the Septuagint, e.g. Matt. 1:23. The Septuagint became the OT of the early Church.

Only after the destruction of the Temple and debates with Christians, the Pharisees at Jamnia finally limited the Hebrew Canon in the 2nd century A.D. - a century after the Resurrection of Christ. They restricted the Hebrew Canon to Books written before 400 B.C. in Hebrew. They also rejected the Septuagint claiming it to be corrupted by the Christians.

The OT of the most ancient surviving Christian Bible manuscripts - Codex Vaticanus (4th century), Codex Sinaiticus (4th century) and Codex Alexandrinus (5th century) - are Greek Septuagint text. Apart from holes and missing pages, the Codex Vaticanus contains all the Books of the Catholic OT, except I and II Maccabees. The Codex Sinaiticus only lacks II Maccabees but also includes IV Maccabees. The Codex Alexandrinus contains all of the Catholic OT Books plus III and IV Maccabees. These manuscripts show that the Septuagint with its larger and looser canon was the OT "Bible" of the early Church.

In conclusion the Catholic Church did not add to the OT. The Catholic OT Canon (also the numbering of the Psalms) came from the ancient Greek Septuagint Bible. Protestants, following the tradition of the Pharisaic Jews, accept the shorter Hebrew Canon, even though the Jews also reject the NT Books. The main problem is that the Bible does not define itself. No where in the Sacred Writings are the divinely inspired Books listed completely.

Answer 8

They were officially canonizeed by the Catholic Church at the Council of Trent (1546 AD).

Answer 9

You do know the Protestant churches broke off from the Catholic church and they removed books from the bible don't you? The Catholics are the original publishers of what is called the bible and it was changed and books removed by the protestants.

Answer 10

You have it backwards. The protestants removed those books. Those books were part of the Septuigent (the Greek translation of the OT) before Christ was even born. In fact, they were even in the first edition of the King James Bible.

Don't buy into anti-Catholic propoganda. And remember who gave you your New Testament: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

To "Mary S" : You need to study your faith more. She is referring to 1 & 2 Maccabees, Baruch, Sirach, and parts of Daniel