Nature is disorderly, and man is not?

Question

Technically you could argue man is a part of nature, but I'm treating him separate for this.

The laws in which nature operates seem to be extremely orderly; that's how life has been able to exist for 3-4 billion years.

Yet in the 100,000 years humans have been around, in the past few thousand we have done immense destruction to the earth and defy a natural way of living. I would consider this anything but orderly.

For those of you who think the opposite, why do you?

Answer 1

Man has done damage to the Earth, but when people consider "order and disorder" in a scientific sense, they are really talking about entropy. Entropy states that things will tend to a lower energy, or disorderly state, over time. When we create order in one area, the use of energy is never 100%, and some energy is wasted; therefore, the process inevitably leads to an increase in entropy.

Answer 2

I think intelligence has allowed us to work out a method of survival allows us to change the environment to fit us rather than us changing for the environment.

I think its now in man's nature to try top impose our own "order " on things and in doing so i think that yes, sometimes we do damage things because we force it away from the natural order.

Think for example of an wolf hunting prey. Whilst they would struggle within the environment we are the only species who would say "lets just lock the prey up and breed them in captivity, then we can just kill them when we like without the effort."

I think this is a really good question and im having difficulty giving a clear answer.

I guess what my point would be is Man IS orderly, but we impose our own order to benefit us, we don't live by the order of nature.

Take a city: The transport system, The offices that open at 9 and close at 5, the traffic lights that control traffic, the stores that organise food by catagory. Its all about control, its all about order, but its order that specifically benefits us. To us nature is disorderly because it doesn't fit out patterns

Answer 3

The definition of a "natural" way of living has changed more and more as we've advanced in technology.

No longer do most of us need to take a dump in a simple hole in the ground, but rather we use indoor plumbing and sewage systems to handle our excrement.

Fruits and vegetables not only can be grown from farms in soil, but with hydroponics can be grown above ground.

Birth control lets people screw like rabbits without worrying about pregnancy nearly as much.

I think the fact that we're so able to mold our environment to suit changes the ground rules and makes what's "natural" differ startlingly from our origins.

Answer 4

Humans are the great destroyers . The terrible part of the story is that when we finally make the world unlivable for ourselves, all of nature will suffer the same fate as us .The animals that had the basic intelligence that told them how to use the resources of the world to protect and feed themselves and their families - - - then to leave nature intact just as they found it , must be destroyed along with the ones who caused the destruction .

Answer 5

Chaos theory tells us that the small change to any system can have drastic consequences. Is there order in a hurricane, a flood, a storm? No. Random little changes can have huge drastic and destructive consequences. The importance should be on random - random chance leads to an asteroid strike or other catastrophe and then we are all goners. So much for order.

Answer 6

You make multiple assumptions and vague definitions, but I'll try:

Life's existence does not require order, nor is its existence evidence of order.

Bad decisions can be orderly, just as good decisions can be disorderly. Serial killers are often very orderly and precise in their actions; spur of the moment vacations or activities can be much more fun than planned events.

Answer 7

To be truthful, the final genuine crude habit I witnessed in public have been the two by potential of females. final weekend whilst eating at on the Texas Roadhouse Steakhouse on my thank you to Cedar element became a set of 7 females celebrating a birthday (they have been around 18). all of them felt the could constantly burp as loud as they could for the time of their meal. a pair of month in the past me and a pair of buddies went out eating. in a while we went to Steak and Shake for a late night chew. the lady my chum became with spit on the floor and we had to go away.

Answer 8

Chaos theory does not state "any" system, only a chaotic one... Weather is an example, turbulance, and so on. Linear systems do not behave that way. Not every system is chaotic.

Answer 9

I agree with you ....but may I emphasize the reason?
Adam rejected what God had to offer.
He preferred independance.
If he had stayed with God's guidance, mankind would not have become so destructive.
Our sorry state is due to rejecting God's advice.

Answer 10

There is no order. It just seems that way because we don't know any different.