How will Gordon Brown sell this to us?

Question

Despite the so-called red line in taxation that the Government claims it has secured the reality is that much of our taxation is already controlled by the EU, such as indirect taxation. Recently the EU announced its intention to take more control over British taxation. These plans include:
EU-WIDE TAXES
Currently the EU is primarily funded by contributions from member-states. However, the anti-democratic European Commission, with the support of the European Parliament is pushing for EU taxes to fund the EU. This will allow it to by-pass national governments and take money directly from the people and businesses of Europe.
The European Commission recognises that as this is controversial they can instead receive funding by raising money directly for themselves via new EU stealth taxes including....

Taking over a share of corporate income tax
An additional EU VAT on top of the VAT which national governments are forced to impose by the EU
EU ‘green’ taxes on motor fuel, aviation fuel and taking the money from road tax which will be charged according to a car’s efficiency
The European Parliament in its own resolution in support of an EU wide tax has added to the list of areas where they intend to introduce new taxes. These are;
taxes on dealings in securities
taxes on transport or telecommunications services
income tax
withholding tax on interest
ECB profits (seigniorage)
ecotax
taxes on currency transactions
taxes on savings
taxes on financial transactions (Tobin tax)
Another possible option is to encourage member-states governments to impose new taxes and make the European Union the beneficiary of those funds.

The proposals also expressly state that the aim is to make sure that controversial projects, which member-states may not wish to fund, such as th

EU’s Galileo program and the Transeuropean Networks can proceed. It is also intended that it will allow the EU to reject the attempts, which have been led by the British government, to rationalise the costly Common Agricultural Policy.
The proposal argues that the EU deserves more finance. The EU also fears that the project to further centralise the EU will stall if larger member such as the UK are allowed to influence what monies are spent where instead of the EU making those decisions themselves.
Allowing the EU to raise funds independently of member-states will remove any leverage that national democracies have over the anti-democratic and federalist EU institutions in Brussels.
The proposals will also finally lead to the elimination of the British rebate.
An EU tax makes a further mockery of the Governments so-called red-line on taxation.....

Answer 1

He can't sell it to us, that is why he will not have a referendum. It is sheer lunacy to go any further down the line with further EU integration and I am grateful that there are people such as yourself who are willing to give up their time telling us what this Government won't...

After making a bit of noise about his red lines, he will sign the thing and his treachery will be complete. And come the next election Labour will be replaced. End of.

Thanks Karen.

Answer 2

I think Elvis got it about right. The determination of Brown and co to go ahead without a referendum is down to the fact that he knows he would get a no vote. How much more undemocratic can he get. As for his red line, that is just meaningless codswallop just like most of the guff that comes out of his mouth. We are already taxed far too heavily the last thing we need is new EU stealth taxes.

I dont think he will sell this to any but the most gullible, but I dont think he will worry too much

Answer 3

Without a referendum, he will be his normal, arrogant, lying,
self. He will use the Labour majority, plus the naivety of the Lib Dems, to force his ambitions through parliament.

Once he has signed us up to this insidious treaty I can't see
any of the mainstream parties, having the courage to pull us out of it.
We will then be left with the options of voting for the lunatic fringe, or waiting until the EU collapses, as I am sure it will.

When it eventually collapses, it will be a virtual re-make, of what happened to the USSR, with local wars between states in Europe, happening once again.

Answer 4

Although you are raising a valid point, if the government can agree in principle to the new common European policy without a referendum , how on earth can we stop anything else.
We can't even object to the present tax increases on fuel which costing jobs and peoples livelihood.

Answer 5

well you know my view on the EU, as far as I'm concerned even if there are so called red lines they will be watered down over time and then obliterated, i see Mr ( Britain killed their king to get a parliament ) barroso has been over sticking his nose in ( by the way barroso Britain didn't exist until 1707 the clue is it was called the ENGLISH civil war subtle but the clue is there you stupid unelected idiot ) however as i was saying lets just have a vote to get out. no more messing with these European idiots.

Answer 6

Any change in taxation can only be good for us. The current regime is very unbalanced in favour of the rich,

Answer 7

With his usual pack of lies.

don`t listen.

Answer 8

Oh just take all my pay see if I care.