Is Christ the straight way and turn way from the unreal and futile cycles of the goddess?

Question

Thanks to all your answers. Have a great day!

Answer 1

Hi Third P,

Your question is subtle and a little more complicated than it seems on the surface. To my mind it covers a very long sweep of religious evolution and transformation that underwent one great shift at the beginning of the Egyptian Civilization (4200 B.C.?).

There is a significant historical antecedent to the universal principle of "Christ". In Egypt it was "Horus". The similarities between Horus and Christ are striking and important especially as the Patriarchal Roman Emperors sat on the Egyptian Throne after the Greek Ptolemies down to Cleopatra around 60 B.C. The essential figure of the Egyptian Civilization was Horus. Horus was treated as the direct path, the straight path or straight way. In Egypt this straigth path was the way of Maat who was treated as one of the most important 'goddess-principles' in the universe.

The Christian movement altered the Egyptian 'way' significantly enough to obscure the important continuity between 'Horus' and 'Christ'.

You are right that 'Christ' refers to the straight path, the straight way, the direct return to what is essentially the divine in man. But I cannot agree that the cycles of the goddess are to be considered as separate from this path, or to be excluded by this path, nor to be thought of as 'false'.

But this brings us into the realm of mysticism. Christianity invokes this mysticism in the New Testament, but does not explain it. It is tied up in the principle of 'Mary' that today is too confused to understand.

In Egypt 'Mary' had a few major antecedents: Hathor, Isis and Neith for example. Neith became the Greek Athena as mentioned by Plato in the Timaeus. Note that Plato dedicated the whole conversation between Timaeus and Socrates to Athena/Neith on the occassion of the Festival of the Goddess! For Plato, Athena was mostly linked to Reason and the way that Reason delivered the soul and mind to the ultimate good, the ultimate in spiritual perfection. Athena was treated as the All-embracing protector of Reason, of truth and of knowledge.

However, in Egypt, Neith, Isis and Hathor were not linked to Reason per se, even if they were the embodiment of Wisdom and part and parcel of spiritual perfection. Egypt did not value analytical Reason and metaphysics the way the Greeks did. The mentality of the Egyptians was less cerebral and more invocative, symbolical, and in this fashion never lost sight of the eternal nature of the Goddess inclusive of the great cycles associated with the Goddess - whether physical or spiritual. In fact the Egyptians embodied the As Above/So Below philosophy or way, and in this way were always uniting what is spiriutal and what is physical. The goddess principle was part and parcel of the way 'Above' and 'Below' were kept in a vital balance. In the Gnostic Gospels, it is Christ who is the recipient as well as embodiment of the same Above/Below path! Christ is that which unites 'Above and Below' . In Egypt, this place of union was the shrine of the Goddess herself called Iseion after Isis the Great!

The counterpart of Isis was Osiris. And the spiritual marriage, or mystical union of Osiris and Isis, gave birth to the 'spirit state' called Horus and also the Eye of Horus - the central theme of ancient Egypt no matter how elusive it has proven to be to scholarship. The Eye of Horus was always designated feminine. This is an important point.

Here is where the clues can be gathered from. Christ is the straight path. But what path? Christ is the path that unites the opposites within himself. This means that he also unites with the goddess. During life this union takes place in cycles that the Egyptians observed every 30 years and that other cultures call "initiations". The perfection of the candidate on the straight path occurred through successive integrations, successive 'marriages'. The great marriage that has always mystified mankind is the mystical marriage of Horus + Hathor, Osiris + Isis, Christ + Mary. And the confusion swirling around this mystical union has always been the same. On what level of being does this union take place? It is a spiritual union, not a physical union. Christ is spirit state. The notion of a bodily resurrection at the apotheosis of the New Testament has also obscured our ability to grasp the age-old principle of spiritual resurrection, or 'rebirth in spirit', as mentioned in the New Testament also.

So my answer to you is this. Yes, Christ is the straight way. Christ is the direct route to spiritual perfection and integration. But this integration, at its most sublime moment, precisely entails the union of the spiritual man with the principle of the goddess. The goddess is eternal and is always present. The cycles of the goddess govern nature and natural cycles of death and resurrection (Osiris in Egypt). By harvesting the fruit of these cycles an individual can achieve the state called "Christ" that goes by other names in other religions.

The principle of Christ and the principle of the goddess are not mutually exclusive. They are in for the duration, eternal complements that separate in Nature and reunite in the realm of spirit. As all religions caution, however, this union has never been easy. Only a few have the discipline and good fortune to be able to enter the straight and narrow path and actually achieve the goal - a goal that has never been anything other than spiritual.

I hope this addresses your question at least in some respects. There will always be a confusion between the historicity of Christ as portrayed in the New Testament by the patriarchal church fathers and the universal nature of Christ that exalts earthly forms. Unfortunately this confusion has obscured the universal nature of Christ that for the most part is the natural birthright of all sentient beings. It is a hard path, but not necessarily an exclusive one. And it most certainly does not exclude the equally universal principle of the goddess. When united, the ancients saw this as the ultimate embodiment of cosmic justice by any candidate who had managed the achievement. This was considered a state of being, not just a mental act.

Cheers.

Answer 2

How encouraging that lynsbrc saw the potential depth in your question. I cannot imagine why you would say "the unreal and futile cycles of the goddess," however.
I truly suggest that you research, for yourself, the conversion from matriarchal to patriarchal, obliterating the goddess from modern religion forever. Did you know that the Church indoctrinated the world to the dangers of women, killing midwives for easing the pain of childbirth as it claimed that was God's punishment for Eve partaking of the Apple of Knowledge, giving birth to to the idea of Original Sin, that during three hundred years of "witch hunts," the Church burned at the stake five million women? Why do you think they did this?
The spirituality of sexual union between man & woman was recast as a shameul act? History will tell you that Jesus was viewed by his followers as a mortal prophet...a great & powerful man, but a man, a MORTAL. It was Constantine who turned Jesus into a diety. It was for unification of the Roman empire, & the new Vatican power that Christ's divinity was established--by a VOTE. In the pre-Christian Nature worship, there was harmony. The divine order of NATURE. The pentacle is a symbol of perfection, beauty, & CYCLIC qualties of the planet Venus that traces a perfect pentacle across the ecliptic sky every four years. The goddess of love & beauty. Man, not God, created the concept of original sin, demonizing woman. I would not belittle the goddess, for we have lived in chaos ever since. My friend, you have an inquiring mind; research these things, & draw your own conclusions.

Answer 3

Not being familiar with this term, I just did a quick websearch on "cycles of the goddess", and see that this may relate to the Mayan calendar and the so-called significant date 13.0.0.0.0 on that calendar which is AD2012 in our calendar. I see no significance in this date; it will come and go, probably with more tensions of world conflicts than now.

A date of interest to me will be around AD2024 -AD2030. AD2030 is a Christian millennial dispensation date; as on May 18, AD30, Jesus Christ ascended, called a complete resurrection of all sleeping human survivors over about 35,000 years, and He also then sent here his Father-Son Spirit of Truth upon all humans. (John 16:7-16) Now, all more spiritual humans may ascend to the next higher mansion world heaven almost immediately at death; and even the most defective ones will be resurrected each 1000 years. That was in AD1030 and soon in AD2030. So for the spiritually retarded (and not fully their fault) that is good news. For God-conscious persons, all of these times mean little.

Yes, those who believe Jesus Christ in soul and try to follow Him are already classified as eternally ascending sons of God ! They do not have to have a Christian teacher or preacher first instruct them in mind; as Jesus already has entered the souls of all who love truth, beauty, goodness and righteousness. The Christian Theology of course is an added benefit if it is close to the real teachings of Jesus and not the lesser teachings of some Scripture writers.

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Answer 4

I may say many contrary things in connection with that word 'Christ'. One of those contrary things is that Christ is humanization and familation of and for God.

'In this very early work, written before Hegel adopted his impenetrable writing style and when his concerns were political rather than philosophical, the meaning of his life’s work begins to be revealed. “Positivity” for Hegel meant given by authority, handed down and accepted as fact, as opposed to “Subjective,” by which he meant a religion which came from people’s hearts, because it grew out of how they lived. At this time, as throughout his life, Hegel idealised life in the ancient Greek polois, and he saw the whole period from the downfall of antiquity up to his own time, a period dominated by Christianity, as a period of despotism and unfreedom. This was because Christianity focussed on people's individual concerns, rather than the good of the whole community. One result of this was growing inequality. He hoped that the French Revolution would be a harbinger of a renewal of democratic ideals, reaffirming individuality within a genuinely republican ethos. [AB]'

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/pc/index.htm

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/pc/index.htm

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Answer 5

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Answer 6

Say what? Christ went straight and recycled the goddess? Want to try that again?

Answer 7

WHAT? Since when--and where--is Christ compared to any goddess?

Answer 8

yes

Answer 9

I really don't get most of the questions you asked...i mean it doesn't make sense at all like this one.
Please think wisely in your next question,ok?

Answer 10

Eh?