WOMEN and MEN this is not your typicall aBORtion question....?

Question

What are your thoughts on Selective Abortion.
For instance, during IVF multiple Zygotes are inserted into the Uterus, and there are an increasing number of occurrences of large multiple births.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilization
What I want to know is how many of you would agree/blame/condone/sympathize with/disagree/criticize/etc. a woman, in which more than 2 zygotes have implanted into the uterine wall and are viable, if she decided to selectively abort some or all but one zygote?

Roman, how is IVF immoral?

Crime Lord you full of it. No that is desperate for a child to go through IVF would abort based on sex, the real issue is the health of the mother and the potential children.

Answer 1

Yes, I'd say it's definitely fine and imagine it's often necessary to keep the mother and at least one of the fetuses alive. It's simply absurd and irresponsible to consider IVF abortion wrong when it puts the life of the woman and all the fetuses in jeopardy. Like another respondent noted, those who claim it's not moral utterly fail to realize this is no longer an easily reducible issue of "killing babies." It is an issue of how people, having once used *science* to intervene in normal affairs, are going to deal with the consequences. So perhaps it actually is an issue of whether IVF itself is moral or not, or how much right people have and what lengths people should be allowed to go to to have their genetically own children. (I personally think, when it gets to the point that a person must have IVF, that the "right" to bear one's genetically own children has become selfish, wasteful, and unnecessary.) An (anti-choice) person cannot sensibly and logically claim that IVF - or using science to tamper with normal reproduction - is OK (women are *not supposed* to have more than one fetus growing in their wombs), but then claim the woman has no right to monitor the already known scientific consequences (10 fetuses) once the tampering is done. No. The IVF procedure would be disastrous if women were expected to carry around 10 fetuses because "we humble earthlings have no right to say who lives or dies." Apparently if we have the power to put 10 fetuses where they are not supposed to be, somebody in fact ALREADY DOES have the power to say who lives. Now how are we going to deal with who dies?

Anti-choicers who think IVF abortion is "wrong" but do not consider IVF wrong do not have their s.hit straight; they need to reassess their stances on IVF itself.

What I'd like to know is how anti-choicers propose people deal with a situation like this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12056405/ . OMG, we should have left the fetuses grow inside the infant because otherwise we're "killing babies"!

Answer 2

It very much depends. Selective abortion for the purpose of having a certain sex child--that's just craziness, but it goes on all over the place. A woman who has had IVF treatment and ends up with too many zygotes needs to abort some in order for the others to remain viable. There is no problem there as there are considerable health risks. It has to be a tough choice. But no...it's not up to me to decide, and I would not feel or do any of those things you suggest. Woman's body, woman's choice.

Answer 3

I heard this honest argument a 365 days in the past: a guy purely makes one incorrect selection. Having unprotected sex. it quite is an same selection the female made. notwithstanding the female is continuously on proper of issues. she will opt for to abort the fetus, or supply it up for adoption. the daddy has no say contained in the be counted. i do not study about discontinuing compelled toddler help, yet neither do i imagine it truly is going to stay unchanged without some actual questioning.

Answer 4

In the first place abortion is a selective procedure which every woman has the right to choose based on the factors important to them. Thus, selectively aborting some of the zygotes would be a decision of the mother based on her best judgment. I would never question a woman on her reasons to have an abortion and would support the decision which was made.

Answer 5

Interesting question. I disapprove of a process of IVF and a practise of transfering many embryos to increase the chances of successful implantation and editing unwanted embryos.

I think it is better to have a IVF and < 3 transfers with careful embryo selection and monitoring though there is a low success rate because the outcomes will be better with a lower risk of complications and premature birth.

I also would not be happy with the idea of being impregnated with multiples and aborting some but that is my own feeling.

But the truth is that multiple births are a real health risk not only with any IVF method but with fertility treatmeant and even with natural reproduction. "Selective" abortion sometimes is a medical necessary.

Answer 6

This is what happens when technology progresses faster than the pace of human thought. Scientists said "Look what we can do!" Consumers said, "I want that!" And nobody really thought through ALL of the consequences.

Obviously, if we can't resolve the simple abortion debate, we certainly can't resolve this more complex dilemma.

What I find paradoxical is that people who choose IVF (a form of "playing God") are often (but not always) anti-abortion --abortion being another form of "playing God." So it's OK to play God sometimes (to create), but not ALL the time ( to destroy). Except in the case of war, when it is not only acceptable, but honorable to send soldiers to die in the name of upholding "principles."
Confused? You bet I am.

Answer 7

wow Emily this IS a good question...
on a moral stand point, I have to think it is a lil tiny bit wrong. but who am I to judge? The reason I say so is if a couple decides to use alternative ways to establish a pregnancy, than part of me thinks they should be willing to accept the results. please know this is only my opinion and I would never vote against such abortions, because I have never faced this issue and I am for less government overall.

Answer 8

I think the person raising children knows what they can handle financially and emotionally - therefore it's personal choice. Others should paddle their own canoe. Personally I would not have IVF because I basically don't believe in interventionist medicine (and that's not for religious reasons) I don't judge someone else for the choices they make - but I do judge the people who try to impose their own personal preferences into the lives of others. If they want to do that they should accept the financial and emotional consequences.

Answer 9

You have a collection of Christian answers here... They worry about the "baby"... They do not give a hoot about its chances of survival or his mother's ability to support him or her, when he or she is delivered into this harsh world. I personally think that people should have as many children as they can comfortably support, without assistance of American taxpayers. FYI, after IVF procedure woman and her physician have absolutely no control of how many embryo's will take and how many eggs will split into twins and triplets... Sometimes woman has 10 of them growing inside her. Problems with that are endless ( physical for the mother, developmental for all the babies and emotional for the rest of their family )... Now, under the best conditions ( if all the babies are born healthy and do not require any additional medical care, which never happens with that many multiples ) this family is only able to afford two. Who in the hell are you to tell them what she can or can not do? Will you personally support them financially, physically and emotionally and take care of their family? Do think about that, before you start judging these people.

Answer 10

I would disagree with a woman who chooses to do such a procedure on purpose. Personally I am not pro-choice and I call abortion murder. Yet, I never turn my back on special cases. Let's suppose I'm pregnant now with multiply births and my doctor tells me a couple of them have a life threatening condition that could spread to me and the others. That I would have to sacrifice them in order to keep ourselves alive. A very frightening picture I tell you, so what is one to do? Wisely I know that a price has to be paid. I would have to in no doubt choose to end the life of the few to save the many.