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my friend thinks pedro is way better, but i think koufax is better

2007-10-11 15:31:35 · 16 answers · asked by nate 1 in Sports Baseball

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I always used to say that Sandy was the guy you'd want the mound if it was Planet Earth vs. the Martians, best-of-one. However, the Pedro Martinez of 1999 or so was pretty close to that level. Koufax pitched in a better park for pitchers, but also was abused by his manager to the point where he had to retire early. (Sandy was pitching complete games in spring training; we've come a long way in terms of injury knowledge.)

So I think it's a pick 'em situation. I'd still lean to Koufax for five years of absolute domination, but Pedro was amazing too.

2007-10-11 16:48:00 · answer #1 · answered by wdx2bb 7 · 0 0

In their primes, Pedro and Koufax were arguably the most dominant pitchers ever. Pedro gets bonus points for having a sub-2.00 ERA when guys lots of guys were hitting over 40 homers a year and the Unit seemingly being the only other guy who could get his ERA under 3.00. That said, Koufax pretty much pitched on three days rest the whole season and his numbers matched Pedro's. He had to retire early, but Sandy was probably the best player in the league when he retired. I think Sandy's last four years were the most dominant stretch of pitching ever and since I value dominance over longevity, I believe Koufax is the greatest ever.

2007-10-11 16:18:56 · answer #2 · answered by Joe 3 · 2 1

Martinez played better in his early years than Koufax did in his, but overall it is Koufax by far. Look at their postseason records. When you need to win a postseason game, throwing a guy whose postseason ERA is around 1.00 is nice to have.

The only time that I would take Martinez over Koufax is if I was playing a game on October 12th, 2007. I am not sure that today's Koufax can out pitch today's Martinez, but it'd be close for a couple of innings!

2007-10-12 04:44:02 · answer #3 · answered by Zim 3 · 0 0

Pedro Martinez. He lapped the sphere. Gooden in 1985: .965 WHIP ( blended walks + hits in line with inning pitched) Gibson in 1968: .853 WHIP Guidry in 1978 : .946 WHIP Koufax in 1965: .855 WHIP (his occupation low) Pedro in 2000: .737(!!!) WHIP Pedro's .737 WHIP is an all time checklist for beginning pitchers, and he set it in between the biggest offensive eras ever, regardless of smaller ballparks, gamers on 'roids, a decrease mound than Koufax, and the DH. And his a million.seventy 4 era, whilst not checklist breaking, is basically as dazzling if not extra so as Gibson's a million.12 in 'sixty 8, given those aspects. to place it in attitude, the submit-season WHIPs of Mariano Rivera and Josh Beckett are .750 and .743, respectively. So think of 200+ innings of postseason Beckett or Rivera and that's the form of year Pedro had.

2016-10-22 02:34:12 · answer #4 · answered by saucier 4 · 0 0

Sandy at his peak, was better, but it was a short span, just 6 years, and before that he sucked. Pedro was better on his career. Sandy, to match current Pedro's W/L record, would have needed another couple of years to compile a 44-6 record. If you're record is that much better than Sandy's, you're in the elite group.
Pedro's ERA+ 161
Sandy's ERA+ 130
Pedro beats him there too.
Cy Young shares 4.26 to 3.05 in favor Pedro.
Finally Sandy had 4 seasons with ERA+ over 150, Pedro had 7 in a row.
Post-season? Pedro is 6-2, Koufax was 4-3.

2007-10-11 16:41:40 · answer #5 · answered by Hugo C 1 · 0 2

Honestly, can you go to sleep really wondering about that?!? Pedro couldn't even hold Koufax's jock strap. Pedro's not even the best in the last 10 years.

2007-10-11 15:57:17 · answer #6 · answered by billyj 1 · 3 0

Sandy Kaufax was a all-time great. Pedro is good but not as good as Koufax was and he never will be.

2007-10-11 15:34:51 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Pedro is an injury prone little tampon.

Koufax all the way.

2007-10-11 15:47:04 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Right now, I'd rather have Pedro pitching for my team.

2007-10-11 17:11:22 · answer #9 · answered by Justin T 5 · 0 3

Is a poo sandwich more tasty then an Ice cream cone??

2007-10-12 01:18:42 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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