Why do Ron Paul's supporters expect him to be trated like the frontrunner?

Question

...When he clearly isn't??

I would have thought you Ron Paul people would be grateful that the media's at least treating your guy like a real dark horse now because of the $5 mil raised last quarter; But no...All you can talk about is unrealistic propasals like a one on one debates with the frontrunner and the latest conspiracy you've cooked up to hide a groundswell of support for Paul, That, Let's be honest; Just isn't showing up in the polls yet.

The bottom line, Ron Paulers; Is you guys will either win when the primaries arrive or you won't. And all the 'powers that be are holding our great movement back' conspiracy blogs in the world won't mean squat one way or the other. For my part; I am passive on the subject - I neither greately like nor dislike Paul. But I have just always been one of those who just HAS TO burst the bubbles of people who lose their grip on reality out of belief in a cause...

I never said I WAS supporting a frontrunner, LovesGod's Creatures - You're reading too much into my statements. And what would be so bad about saying 'Mrs. President?!?'

Come on, Think Richly - It is totally unrealistic to expect the media to leave the rest of the candidates out of the debate process just so the ones who are having trouble getting traction in the polls can improve their chances with a one on one dialogue with the frontrunner. No primary debates have been done that way before so you shouldn't expect the whole process to change just cause you like the new guy on stage; They shouldn't anyway because that concept is unfair to all the rest of the candidates. 'The entire field participates' is just the long standing tradition of primary debating; So again - Get real - About it...

'Dude' - Typical tactic for those who've lost perspective on reality: Parse the facts to make it seem like your version IS reality. Let's talk MAJOR straw poll events; Shall we-? Was Paul even on the radar in August's Iowa straw poll?? How about that embarassing 3rd place finish in his home state?? You and I both know these internet and phone polls are susceptible to them same old people re-voting.

COME ON, PEOPLE! He is NOT a frontrunner yet and you KNOW it!! So give it up!! My point remains - If Paul's grass-roots support is really as strong as you're claiming; He'll win the primaries. If he doesn't; I'd say that would prove me right that you've been deluding yourself on these subjects all this time...

Answer 1

Don't know - it's really strange. They keep saying he is a top-tier candidate when he has 1% of the vote. They proclaim that "he is our only hope to beat Hillary" - yea right! They do not face reality at all.

Some have expressed concern that WHEN he looses the nomination, will he run as an Independent and be a Ross Perot. I don't think he has that much power to make a difference. Perot had a following, Paul doesn't.

EDIT: "Think Richly" why would any candidate WANT to debate with Paul one-on-one. What is the purpose? He's a NOBODY!

Answer 2

With all due respect to you, if your research on the candidates hasn't been done, as well as see what type of job they did in a Senate seat from a particular state, then you shouldn't be spouting off about other candidates.
Ron Paul supporters do not expect him to be treated as a 'frontrunner'. The media picks and shapes the candidates for people who don't do research, and that is what puts them out in front in the polls. There are several books written on this subject.
By the time primaries and caucauses roll around, the ones at the top won't be there anymore. Historically this is correct also.

Answer 3

I don't expect Ron Paul to be treated as a "front runner" but I'd like to see all of the candidates, including Hunter, Tancredo, Huckabee, and Brownback receive equal face time during the debates. The so-called "second tier" candidates are usually placed at the ends of the stage with the "top tier" candidates - Rudy, Romney, Thompson, and McCain - placed in the middle. The "top tier" candidates get several questions each and basically get to respond to any question they want, while the "second tier" candidates get a few questions and rarely get to jump into a topic when it comes up. This is just the media's way of dictating to us who we should vote for, rather than exposing us to all of the candidates equally and letting us make up our own minds. Although I'm a Ron Paul supporter, I'd like to hear more from Hunter and Tancredo, because I think they'd make good VP candidates who could then spring-board that into a strong and successful Presidential run in the future.

Answer 4

When 90 percent of the media is owned by the elite, what can you expect other than them trotting their favorites, thus pumping up the so called front runners? If Americans could only take the time away from entertainment and become familiar with the ecconomic uncertainty we face as a nation, they would surely realize the senselessness of offering more war and welfare.
But because some of the few, or the rich, capitalize on their tools of propaganda, honest candidates like Ron Paul, who refuses to be sold out, have little chance of being seen. What a crime it is!! This whole show is driven and marketed by those who don't give a hoot about the common folks and it clearly highlights one important and crucial fault of todays democratic process, that it can be unfairly controlled and is thus, corrupted.
All other, so called, "front runners," are candidates that are clearly out for POWER and THEMSELVES! Egos that reach the summits of the Andie's mountains. Where Ron is willing jeopardize his chances with emphatic demonstrations of honesty, and concern. He may be someone else's underdog, but to me, he is what liberty is all about! Ron had me swayed 4 yrs ago that he is as genuine as it gets. He really does CARE! And If he don't win, Americas will again show me that they have been lulled into the scam of the elites, and we'll all reap what we have sown! GO PAUL!!

Answer 5

I think that Ron Paul may surprise you. I think that due to the Internet, he might be able to get the vote out in a big way and if he does, he might make a surprisingly good showing. Depending on how much of the vote he gets out, we may be hearing from the people who have not voted in the past due to a scarcity of candidates they could believe in.
You might not believe that he has a chance, and he might not with people who tend to vote along party lines, but there are enough of us out here who don't feel that either party is representing us, who are looking for an alternative, and he is the only candidate who is believable when he says that he will stop the war and reduce the size of government.
I am not yet convinced, but I'm getting there, and you must remember that this country was started based on the idea that the people didn't like what was going on in the government, and didn't like unjust taxation.
Perhaps, the major parties ought to consider that we hired them, and we can fire them.

Answer 6

I'll admit, as of right now, the majority of polls are showing that Ron Paul is not a front runner.

This disturbs me personally, I don't understand how any American who can read, and knows what the constitution is, could not vote for Ron Paul. With the exceptions of liberals who think that Americans should give up their liberties and their pay checks and let the government handle it all for them.

Yeah, that worked great for Germany in the 1930's and 40's.
China's big on that idea too. Go Communism! (Sarcasm).

Answer 7

Hey Monte, Im afraid its you who is in the dark about the Ron Paul Revolution ! The media has done so much to cover up Ron Paul's huge growth. The media has been found to lie, misrepresent, skew, and even hide Ron Paul's success. I'm in Califonia and I see many Ron Paul signs on cars and around town. Ron Paul is a true hero and a patriot who is growing in popularlity every day. Ron Paul is our only hope if we are to save this nation. Now ...I'm not naive enough to think that the "powers that be" aren't already rigging this next election. I'm sure they are...the question is can Ron Paul's numbers be enough to surpass the vote deficit made by the rigging of the election? He may be the only one who can possibly defeat Hillary Clinton....

Answer 8

I think the important thing is that Ron Paul, regardless of how he does in polls, is shpwing that regular people actually care about the issues and that if the government, which remains unconstitutionally unbalanced by way of Bush's Administration, decides to continue its rally against civil liberties, such as Habeus Corpus and negating regular citizens of their liberties and freedoms, the real people aren't going have it.
Ron Paul is showing that America isn't the way it should be.

Answer 9

First learn how to spell and then I'll explain it to you.. "trated"? lol?

Anyways to answer your question I don't expect him to be treated as a front runner.. He is a candidate and I expect him to be treated equally to the other candidates.

I actually agree with your assertion, either he will win or he won't.. I don't think you should stereotype all his supporters (i.e. the conspiracy blogs) I don't buy into that stuff...

I support my candidate regardless of how he polls, because I vote on the ISSUES, not who is the front runner.. I have respect for all the supporters of other candidates and I just expect the same, instead of being grouped into the category of "needing a grip on reality"

I don't go around parading that my candidate will win for sure or there is any kind of conspiracy.. I support what he advocates.. I hope you can understand where I am coming from.. and drop the name calling. thanks

Answer 10

I support Ron Paul for president, and will continue to do so until such time as he either wins and changes the country for the better or bows out of the process by his own wishes. If the latter happens, may whatever you pray to help us all.

And for the record, I happen to agree with you on the either he will win or he won't thing. The media may ignore him, along with multiple other candidates of all parties, but eventually they will have to take notice if either Paul or one of the others starts winning primaries.

Answer 11

You know I'm having a very hard time understanding exactly what front runner means.

Does it mean the candidate that has raised the most money?

Or does it mean the candidate that has actual voters committed to support & vote for the candidate of his/her choice?

I think it's a mis-conseption! Here's why!

Lets say a so called front runner has raised $50 million in campaign funds

http://www.meetup.com/topics/polact/cand/pres/

But his support shows:......6 Votes???

(snip)
Rudy Giuliani
5 Members in 1 Meetup Groups, 1 waiting for a Meetup Group.

Where as Ron Paul has over 50,000 varifyable voter/supporters.....which would equal over 50,000 votes.

(snip)Ron Paul 2008
47,251 Members in 990 Meetup Groups, 6,197 waiting for a Meetup Group.

So the bottom line is:
If someone like Bill Gates was to contribute,,,through his company,,,say $70 million to Ron Paul.....That would make Ron Paul a front runner but only represent ONE Vote!?!?
You see the delimma?

You can fool ALL of the people some of the time, but you can't fool ALL of the people ALL the time!

Just trying to point out that so far Ron Paul seems to have WAY, WAY more human support than any of the so called top tier candidates.
Thank you.
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