Should the LSU supporters feel lucky that their beloved Ben-Gals didn't play USC in '03?

Question

It's incredible how these LSU fans can make an argument without backing it up with solid facts.

You guys have long been complaining about the split national championship with USC in '03 however you forget the fact that you guys barely squeaked by a Jason White-led sooners team while USC handled Michigan 28-14. USC lost a triple over time at Cal while LSU lost to Florida at home 7-19. And LSU barely beat Ole Miss in a 17-14 close game while USC shut out then #6 Auburn on the Tigers' own turf.

The experts and AP knew that USC should've gone to the title game and they knew that USC deserved to be the one and only true champion that's why they gave them the split title.

Can you LSU fans make a point without calling somebody a dumbass or stupid? I highly doubt it. All you guys do is make empty assumptions.


LSU's 2003 season recap-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_LSU_Tigers_football_team

USC's 2003 season recap-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_USC_Trojans_football_team

Answer 1

LSU would've beat them like a drum. There was no split championship. Anyone who knows football recognizes LSU as the sole National Champion football team in that season.

Answer 2

Fantasy football.

USC and LSU both had great teams. And if they played each other, either could have won. That's just the way the football bounces.

LSU won the BCS title game and USC was the Number 1 team in the AP Poll. (The coaches poll counts for squat because the coaches, like something out of Soviet Russia, were bound to vote for the winner of the BCS game -- but some rebelled). Both USC and LSU won legitimate national titles.

Remember, the whole mess started because the BCS computers couldn't figure out that Oklahoma's blow out loss to Kansas State in the Big12 title game should have bumped them down a few notches.

Neither LSU nor USC should be penalized for the computers being "stupid." Both deserve the titles they won. I am tired of hearing all this complaining. If anyone keeps insisting that their team was the 'true' national champion, they should be shot and their team deemed to forfeit the share of the title they won!

Answer 3

You forgot to mention that the Sooners were led by a one-legged Jason White.

After that game, I spoke with a lot of LSU fans who said they were lucky that Jason was hurt, because they know they would have lost had he not been hobbled.

So it is not all LSU fans that are unrealistic and think they would have beaten USC that year. Probably just some of the idiots on Yahoo. However, LSU might have beaten USC that year, we will never know. Stats don't mean too much when two good teams get together to play for a title...but I would 'guess' that USC would have won. but I could be wrong...we will never know and everyone should let it go.

Answer 4

Being a USC fan I'm tire of hearing the LSU fans saying USC should not claim the share title, the AP poll don't count but they gladly take the share of the AP poll that voted them #1 last week, for the first time since 1959, wow, that's lame. If a team is voted #1 by the AP poll or the Coaches(BCS affiliated) you take it and claim it, don't say a team undeserving because it's not the BCS, their are 2 National Championship Trophy, the BCS and the AP title. USC will be in the title game this year LSU fans to take the share title again this time,the BCS title.

Answer 5

I would have loved to see LSU play USC in 2003 for the championship but the strength of schedule cost USC. As far as splitting the championship, I don't think the AP should have a say in it because with them it is based on opinion. Just look at how asinine the AP poll has been this year especially trying to favor PAC-10 teams.
Don't think so. Look at the poll from week to week. I'll even give you a few pointers.
Week 3 - UCLA enters the poll for the first time at No.11 for defeating Nevada and BYU. Right!!
Week 4 - UCLA drops out of the poll after Utah hands them their lunch. Oh but wait Oregon enters the poll for the first time at No. 13 for having defeated Houston, Michigan and Fresno St. Right!!!
Oregon is now ranked 7th and the only ranked team they have played was their loss to CAL. How does that work.
Looks a little fishy wouldn't you say. That's why the AP poll shouldn't count for anything.
Also, aren't you being a little disingenuous in that the ranking of the team at the end of the year is the one that counts.


Oh no I got a negative vote. I guess you don't like facts after all.

Answer 6

USC had absolutely NO CHANCE of beating LSU on their home turf in 2003. That was the biggest football game in the history of Louisiana, and they weren't going to let them lose. Oklahoma had 2 turnovers and one fumble called back by the crooked refs. In the second half, LSU got ONE first down and ZERO yards in the 4th quarter. They were on their backs sucking oxygen on the sidelines, and we were blowing them five yards off the line on every play. Then our stupid coordinator Chuck Long (I'm glad we finally got rid of him!) Started calling pass plays in the red zone! All we had to do is run the ball down their throat to tie the score and there was NO CHANCE we could lose because LSU was DONE! Even leaving the game some LSU fans were saying how glad they were there wasn't another quarter to play. Even with White's and other key injuries, we win that game on a neutral field. If we play LSU or USC when we were at mid-season form, we kill BOTH of them. We beat Vince Young and Texas 65-13! (and the game wasn't that close!)

Answer 7

I think it's the other way around. We all would have loved to see USC/LSU mix it up. USC played an over ranked, under speed Mich team, not a championship caliper team. LSU played OU, who I agree should not have been invited, but who I think would also have beaten the crap out of Mich.

Answer 8

Your both right and wrong. LSU was the only champion that year. The records show LSU beating OK...I don't see anything showing were USC played in that game. But regardless LSU would have beat USC and would of have played them had the NCAA agreed to it. I guess they just didn't want LSU to embarrass USC like they embarrassed OK.

Now on to USC's defense for the year 2003. They DID get cheated out of playing for the championship. I said then, and I still say it today...ANY TEAM THAT CAN NOT WIN IT'S CONFERENCE HAS ZERO BUSINESS PLAYING FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP. And OK did NOT win their conference game. That is the game they lost. So by rights the Championship game should of have been LSU and USC, Not LSU and OK...

But the BCS made that bad decision so USC needs to just get over it.

LSU RULES

Answer 9

Zinger. Your response is so groundless and far from being "facts" that I doubt it that you ever look at anything objectively.

The guy listed facts and backed his claims up. And all you got is calling the AP inept?

What does AP being inept have to do with this question and with whether LSU would have won the national title or not had they played Southern Cal?

Then again what do I expect from the LSU folks?

Answer 10

So what your saying is that the Tigers are 5-0, USC is 4-1, and Florida is 4-2.