....sit on this forum and point out and lament how nasty, unaccountable women behave & think? I've had the good fortune of having some of the more mature women on this forum take me aside and remind me of things like this. Wouldn't the concepts of "success is the best revenge," and "lead by example" be more effective and enjoyable than to sit and criticize those that will not listen to this type of criticism for decades, if ever? I'm not questioning the validity of what they criticize, just the effectiveness. Hey, I'm one of these guys myself.
I guess my main question is: Wouldn't it be more effective to concentrate on/look for a good woman and reward her when you find her; even if you think your goal is to irk nasty women?
2007-10-11 06:37:29 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Social Science ➔ Gender Studies
Bizarre answers so far.
2007-10-11 07:01:03 · update #1
You are correct in the assumption that rewarding good behaviour will change the flow of this forum.
This would be interesting. I, for one, would reward those who don't mention their gender every 5 seconds. This goes for men and women.
I got tired of hearing my female work colleagues go on about how 'fat' they were, how they were 'hormonal' and how they were having 'blonde moments'. As if accepting the put-downs and labels - like some perverted Stockholm Syndrome - was going to allow them to be set in their ways and do nothing to improve their lot in life but to serve to bore the living sh*t out of me.
I also got tired of my male colleagues antagonising their female co-workers with teasing and put downs meant to be jokes. The references to 'it's a guy thing' or 'oh, I don't understand women' or just any of the snivelling little things that people keep going on about like a broken record.
As if we all have to fit in our little roles and then get upset when we're faced with the reality that we don't all fit into a set role and we don't all like the same things and we don't all have the same level of feelings or ability to think or ability to see or to understand or whatever.
I get sick of hearing anyone put themselves into a set defined role and to accept that that is all they can offer the world. It is lazy and apathetic.
One thing is a fact, though, there are no mistakes in life and we all have talents and something to offer the world.
See, already, there is someone who posts a canned response quoting from a doctrine and then has to throw in: Women trying to be equal to men are bad.
As humans we are equal because one wouldn't exist without the other. Women and men do not have to try to be equal to anyone or anything. We are all people and we are all subject to the laws of nature and to our own conscience and to outside influences.
Life makes us equal and we can't help that whether we want to put others down or fight for something all of us already have or not.
How in the world does putting down one half of yourself raise you up?
It is a waste of energy on both sides and stems from a well of personal ill feelings and puts forth nothing towards a universal truth.
As soon as someone - anyone - puts down another, they have lowered themselves and have put themselves down. This is fact and people on this forum would be wise to digest that and think before they air their repressed views about others.
Even this question has a hint of excluding himself from the rest of the world. As if to say, I have authority to reward or irk others.
There is no purpose but to use up excess adrenaline and to draw attention to oneself when we set out to irk others. It is small potatoes.
Let's pause a moment and visualise Albert Einstein setting out to 'irk' others. We can't. He was too busy using his mind to sort of his visions of nature and physics.
It is those who aren't using their resources efficiently who set out to 'bother' or 'irk' others.
We may all go through this phase in life but it is something we grow out of and if we seek to evolve and become great thinkers, we will avoid any actions that bring harm or disturb the peace of others.
This is not meant as an insult to the poster. It is only a statement of fact in the hopes that someone reading it will say, yes, eureka! That's right! And then may go on to better themselves and to offer greatness to the world.
You know the one that so desperately needs someone great in it right about now?
2007-10-11 07:58:43 · answer #1 · answered by The Oracle 1 · 2⤊ 2⤋
There are a lot of good women and men. The problem is that emotions bring out the worst in many. I have been attacked enough to know it really doesn't matter what your stance is, because someone will take offence to it. The best part is even is you agree with what someone is saying they accuse you of lying. Truly you cannot win on this forum.
2007-10-11 07:07:50 · answer #2 · answered by Deirdre O 7 · 6⤊ 0⤋
Honestly I don't think that would work either because then we would just be called oppressors because we would be patronizing them. It would seem the feminists refuse to listen and we anti feminists refuse to relent. I would like to see some common ground with the feminists but if they will not listen or acknowledge that things are happening to men that they are fighting to stop from happening to women then they are going to have to endure a growing anti feminists movement. As for trolls they come in both genders not just anti feminists. The trolls seem to enjoy stirring up the feminists because it is so easy for them to do so. I can't stand them because they prevent any headway from being made by keeping the feminists all riled up. When an anti feminist makes a remark about how spiteful feminists are we are talking about the radfems but what we get is a bunch of excuses on how that isn't feminism. But if the radfems are claiming feminism then why can't the normal feminists make the logical assumption that we are talking about the radfems.
2007-10-11 08:39:02 · answer #3 · answered by Chevalier 6 · 0⤊ 6⤋
And supposing that these anti-feminists just so happen to be women how is that supposed to go? Anyways; I'm one of those.
Don't ever put me on a pedesal, cause the pressure is way too great, been there done that.
2007-10-11 11:16:18 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Perhaps, in some sense it would be more "effective" - it depends, of course, on the desired effect. You seem to be implying that people should behave rationally and act in their own best interests and... and... well, that's just a crazy idea!
2007-10-11 07:34:05 · answer #5 · answered by language is a virus 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
In your personal life, I think it would be great for you to "reward" a good woman. However, in this Forum, I think it serves no good to say that "She" is a good woman, and "Her" is not a good woman.
Good is in the eye of the beholder, too.
2007-10-11 10:47:42 · answer #6 · answered by Rainbow 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Well that would work in theory...but then, think about the women on this forum that the men here often praise. Those women are idiotic doormats. Is that what we should all be?
2007-10-11 07:58:41 · answer #7 · answered by G 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
You're only going to ruffle more feathers by holding one woman up as a paragon of virtue. I wouldn't risk it.
2007-10-11 06:45:02 · answer #8 · answered by Rio Madeira 7 · 3⤊ 2⤋
No. I am a good woman. So are most other women in here.
I don't need people like you to tell me I'm good or bad. So don't bother.
2007-10-11 07:27:22 · answer #9 · answered by ♥ ~Sigy the Arctic Kitty~♥ 7 · 4⤊ 3⤋
Reality=
Very few women are very great or very horrible. Most are in the middle.
2007-10-11 08:28:09 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 4⤋