I ask this because it has been repeated by many on this site and elsewhere otherwise. Facts are facts, and it may be helpful to deal with them in these discussions.
2007-10-11 05:06:52 · 13 answers · asked by Erboes 1 in Sports ➔ Baseball
I ask this because it has been repeated by many on this site and elsewhere otherwise. Facts are facts, and it may be helpful to deal with them in these discussions.
To clarify this through the wonders of editing, I AM NOT saying the Indians have a better offense then Boston, because I do not believe that. What I am saying is that many here said Boston has a big power edge, which is not true (at least statistically). When things are discussed, I just believe that keeping to the facts when you are able to do so would make this forum much more enjoyable.
2007-10-11 05:24:03 · update #1
Also, I am not saying that the Indians will hit more homers in this series, nor am I saying that the Indians will win. I am just saying THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS -- can't we stick to them? Is that too much to ask? My goodness.
2007-10-11 05:28:40 · update #2
And as far as the "Manny missed 28 games" argument goes -- are you willing to bet your life on Manny having hit 13 during those 28 games to put Boston ahead of the Indians in that category (not even counting those hit by his replacements.)? And are we allowed to do the same thing with games missed by Indians' hitters?
Much better argument about road power numbers though. Boston did have a few more homers but the teams' averages were identical (.262) and the runs scored were within ten. Fenway does take away home runs, but boy it does help a team's average.
2007-10-11 06:06:12 · update #3
If you take into account the fact Manny Ramirez missed 28 games and hit only 20 homers, I'd say the Red Sox have the more powerful lineup.
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2007-10-11 05:54:53 · answer #1 · answered by Kris 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
If you're going to use "facts," maybe you should present a clearer picture.
The Indians did hit more homers, but the Sox hit more on the road than did the Tribe. The Indians hit 101 of their homers at Jacobs Field, which was a much more power-friendly stadium (1.104) than Fenway (.876) if you examine park factors. The Sox also had a higher team batting average (11 points), OBP (19 points) and slugging (16 points) than the Tribe, and ultimately scored more runs (again partly because Fenway is an easier park in which to score runs, if not to homer).
I'm a neutral fan here, but I don't think you're being very selective in your presentation of facts.
EDIT - For those who believe it's easier to hit homers at Fenway, you are incorrect. Again, I'd implore you to learn what park factors represent and to look at the numbers. Jacobs has been an easier park in which to homer for the past couple of seasons.
Nacnud - I do realize that, and it's a valid point, especially since Camden is homer-friendly. Like I said, Fenway is an easier park in which to score runs, just not to homer. Looking at a single number just doesn't allow for any perspective - that's all I'm trying to say. There are so many other factors that should be considered, including the good point you made.
2007-10-11 12:14:26 · answer #2 · answered by Craig S 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Ok..so the Indians hit more homers this year. Good for them! All that matters now, is what will happen in the games the two play against each other in the next week or so.
2007-10-11 13:05:10 · answer #3 · answered by Red Sox lover 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Although Craig S makes a good argument in his presentation of more facts, does he realize the Red Sox play around 38 games against Baltimore and Tampa, the only two teams in MLB with ERA over 5.00?
I totally agree with you Craig. You can "pick out" stats to argue just about any point you want to make whether you believe it to be true or not. But I still believe baseball stats are the most relevant of any of the major sports.
2007-10-11 12:36:01 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
What happened in the regular season can be thrown out the window. This is a whole new season. Also The stats make a difference in overall performance of each team. You must also factor in home field advantage. The Sox win in a landslide on that one!! RED SOX NATION
2007-10-11 12:22:12 · answer #5 · answered by andrew b 2 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Something you have forgotten. The Red Sox's own the series 5-2 for the regular season.
2007-10-11 12:19:26 · answer #6 · answered by Tinman12 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Yes and isn't it true that it is easier to hit home runs at Fenway than it is at Jacob's field? The thing is the power batters does not win games, give credit to the contact hitters too. I don't know it's true, but Fenway is one of the most easiest places to hit the long balls.
2007-10-11 12:25:25 · answer #7 · answered by beckyschristine 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
NO but that was 162 games not 7
2007-10-11 12:21:56 · answer #8 · answered by Michael M 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Your dreaming dude , they might have out homered them this year , but you know as well as i , pitching wins out in the big games .... Watch and learn Indians fan !!!!!!!!
2007-10-11 12:37:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, but when people talk about their offense they are talking about how hot Manny, Big Papi, and Mike Lowell have been.
2007-10-11 12:39:50 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋