How can 20% of democrates think it's a good thing to lose the war?

Question

Could we send them to another country, like California and keep the same number of illegals. At least they want to be part of the USA.

Add on after 22 answers: listen to the national news when ever you can get your head out of Move on's rear parts. If being in the millitary for 7 years during Veitnam and 2 years driving in convoys,in Iraq,without a weapon to protect myself, makes me a coward,so be it. Think what effect it has on a young person, when he has just helped put, his friends body on the plane for home. Then has to listen,to a news report that 20% of any group in the US thinks it would be good to lose.

Answer 1

This war will not be "won" or "lost." To relegate this war to terms of "winning" and "losing" is ridiculous. It's not a simple fight of one vs. another. It's a messy, tangled conflict, the effects of which will be seen indefinitely into the future, and it will be "won" or "lost" only according to the bullsh*t proclamation of whatever person who officially calls an end to it.

What defines victory? All terrorists and Muslim extremists are dead and our country is safe? That is not going to happen. Keeping extremists from killing innocent civilians is not a process that has a finite beginning and end. So is it to establish a free-functioning democratic system in Iraq? Or establishing peace between its region's people? That is probably not going to happen either.

So does that mean we "lost?" Only history will be able to give us clarity as to whether the overall effects of this conflict were ultimately advantageous or whether they were instead precursors to worse events and conditions.

From what I've seen, however (and the nature of this question may be support to this claim), you have to be extremely simple-minded to either declare OR believe that we're "kicking *ss" over there.

Answer 2

First of all we have yet to hear how we know we have won in this war. I think once that is made clear more people will understand and support a win. The Administration has been at this for 5 years and still no real exit strategy or definition of win. Everyone wants to win and to back a winner but we must know when we have won. As for sending people to another country that is the COWARD's way out. Instead of facing one's adversary such cowards want them to simply go away. Instead of making a convincing argument on REAL ISSUES the coward just wants to change the subject or make his opponent some how vanish. A true hero stands up to and vanquishes his foe. A coward runs from the problem or the enemy or wishes the problem gone or opponent gone. From your post it is easy to see what you are.

Answer 3

I have only heard of the idiot Ron Paul who said it would be a good thing ...

the Liberal Democrats talk about pulling out and re deployement which costs more to do , but I have not heard their over spending higher taxes for all leader Hillary say nothing about how a loss would be good , being democrat it is her job to spend more money for the same rusult to be achieved at the lower cost ...She talks about a pullout , bring them home , then re deploy ...but I have not heard of what you speak , I am republican and If I hear this as you say , I will be on it like stink on sh*t ....you can bet on that ...

California has enough problems , which explains why record numbers are leaving the State to go elsewhere to a lower cost of living ...so lock your door dude , them Californians is a migratin elsewheres ....maybe in yer neck of the woods ..ya know ..

Answer 4

There may be a portion of the population that would like to see the US lose in Iraq, but I highly doubt 20% of Democrats see it that way. You are a prime example of what is wrong with this country. Idiots from both sides throw out BS without supporting their claims with facts.

I know you're a troll based on your assertion that they all move to California, but believed your claim needed a response.

Answer 5

1. California is a state in the US, not a separate country from the US.

2. We have already lost the war.

3. That's DEMOCRATS!!!

Answer 6

The cons said we want America to lose when we said there were no WMD's.

The cons said we want America to lose when we said the elections wouldn't change anything.

The cons said we want America to lose when we said we didn't believe Bush when he said we were "making progress" in Iraq... in 2003... in 2004... in 2005... in 2006... and this year too.

The cons said we want America to lose when we ridiculed Cheney when he said the insurgency was in it's last throes... two years ago.

The cons said we want America to lose we called Rumsfeld a failure.

The cons said we want America to lose when we pointed out that the surge wasn't working.

Maybe it's time to stop listening to Bush and all the other backers of this war who have been wrong about it 100% of the time, and listen to the people who have been consistently right about Iraq from the beginning, the 'libs' you hate so very much.

Answer 7

bush LOST the war in iraq the day he invaded.

Even you know this, which explains why you aren't over there fighting today!

The sooner the waste of American lives and tax dollars in iraq ends, the better.

Answer 8

I know of NOBODY who thinks that it is a good thing to lose the war.

I know of plenty of people who thinking "losing" this war is a better thing than actively making things worse. Indeed for at least the first 3 years of this war, we were actively making things worse simply by being there.

Answer 9

Define "Win"
Define "lose"
When you can give me an attainable definition after 4+ years of combat, then we can talk.

Answer 10

Sorry Rush, just not true. Besides, the war was over long ago. What we are trying to accomplish now is anyone's guess.