Which one do you think is rightful? ISRAEL or PALESTINE?

Question

Considering the history, and NOW.

Answer 1

Both in a way.

The Jewish race are entitled to have their own country but they should be made to go to go back to the original 1948 borders for Israel.All the rest of the land they now control should be given to the Palestinian people so they can have their own fully independent country.

Israel should also have to compensate the Palestinian people for the last 59 years.Everyone felt sorry for the Jews after Hitler and rightly so but that doesn't make it OK for them to treat the Palestinians in a way that's nearly as bad as the way the Nazi's treated them.

Answer 2

Both are. I do not see why one has to be right and the other wrong?

If you look at the actions of both the Palestinian (non)state and Israel, both are wrong. The Palestinians for not working harder to clamp down on attacks on Israel, for the corruption in the authority, and the refusal to engage with Hammas after they won the last elections.

Israel is also wrong for the land grabs after 1967, the creation of settlements in the West bank, the extra-judicial killings (with the deaths of innocents) and the way they treat Palestinian civilians.

The problem is that because of a lack of a just peace settlement (like the one envisaged by the Oslo accords), both Israeli and Palestinian civilians are dying. Yes there are more Palestinians dying, but one needless death is a needless death too many, no matter who they are.

Answer 3

Historically, Palestine is rightful
In 1930, a Palestinian delegation demanded from the British mandate which were then in charge of Palestine that they set up a parliament '"elected by the people in proportion to their numbers irrespective of race or creed"'

It was rejected because equal rights for all would have therefore violated the British mandate goal of settling Jews in Palestine and creating a Jewish state there. Jews were under 20% of the population at that time. The Zionists always had the goal of getting rid of as many Arabs as they could in order to create an exclusively Jewish state. In 1947-1949, they took the oppurtunity afforded by the British departure to expel the Palestinians what became Israel because they weren't Jewish. They employed massacres terror, massacres and threats of massacres in order to get the people to leave. Afterwards, they razed some 500 Palestinian villages and confiscated the land property and money and used it for exclusive Jewish developement. Well, that's the "democracy" modern Zionists support.

NOW, Palestine is rightful
One cannot say that neither side has committed crimes against the other, but just look at what Israel has been doing to the Palestinians in the occupied territories. Walling up villages and turning them into large prisons, torture, more land confiscations, deliberately causing many people to go hungry (food insecurity and malnutrition are widespread in Gaza). All because the Palestinians have refused to give up what rightfully belongs to them, because Israel lays claim to territory taken in war, one it started. And Israel has flouted international law and built massive settlements on land outside its recognized borders for Jews only, much of them on privately owned Palestinian land taken by military order.

NOW, Palestine is rightful,
because for whatever their failings the Palestinian people have more of a history of religious tolerance. The Palestinian basic law establishes all of its people are equal under the law without discrimination because of race, sex, color religion or political views or disability, it also provides for the right to a speedy trial, right not to be tortured, the right to a lawyer if accused, innocence until proven guilty, freedom of the press and other rights we hold hold dear. Israel has no such protections for many of these things, they have never forbidden torture by law, before 1994 it was forbidden for Palestinians to even display the Palestinian flag, fairly recently a Palestinian Israeli MK was prosecuted for stating that "Israel should be a state for all it's citizens," that is, advocating that Israel shouldn't be an exclusively Jewish state.

Answer 4

Considering the history,the land belonged to palestina .UN proposed to give the land to Israel but palestanians denied.Later they forcefully conquered the lands.And after the wars, Israel conquered more lands than the amount of land UN actually planned for israel.The land never belonged to Israel and will never be considering history and now.
Some idiots say that the land was given to them thats absolutely false, plus why is it that they now posses over 80% of palestanian territory if they were peace loving jewish nation who only needed a home?I dont now why so many ilitarate americans support them and totally disgraced at our goverment to actually support them with $$ and weapons technically making us the biggest sponser of terrorism.
So palestine is RIGHTFUL

Answer 5

The only reason there is no Palestine today is because the Arabs of the region did not want independence. Instead they wanted to destroy Jewish independence. They rejected the original two state solution circa 1947. Upon Israel declaring independence on its half, they immidiately declared war with the stated goal of destroying the Jewish state in its infancy. This attack obviously failed, and yet instead of taking the sizable chunk of the area not under Israeli control, those Arabs living there sat back and supported their annexation by other Arab countries (Egypt and Jordan). Interestingly enough, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) was founded in 1964 before the six-day war and the subsequent occupation. At that time, what certain people refer to as Palestine was under Jordanian and Egyptian control, and yet the Palestinian (first usage to denote specifically Arab residents of the region in the 60's) liberation movement targetted Israel exclusively. Instead of creating a state and living side by side in peace with Israel, they denied themselves the right to a state and chose continued armed conflict once again with the stated goal of destroying the Jewish state. Another poster on this thread stated that Israel started conflicts (and got the years wrong, by the way), but that is a falsification. In 1967 Egypt blockaded the port of Eilat and claimed to have mined the strait. This is an official declaration of war, and thus Israel's pre-emptive strike was pre-emptive of the battle but not of the war. Prior to Israel's strike Egypt had loaded the border with troops and dismissed the UN peacekeepers meant to guard the border (lots they did). Those things in it of themselves are justification for Israel's strike. What is important is the outcome, and that is the occupation that exists today.
Historically, Palestine was given the right to exist but refused specifically by those who today call themselves Palestinians. They did not believe themselves a people nor in need of a sovereign state while the option was on the table. The saw themselves as Arabs and sought only to live under an Arab regime and to destroy the new Jewish state. Considering history then, one must conclude that there is no longer such a right to Palestine.
However, the situation today forces us to conclude ultimately differently. On a practical level, there are simply too many Palestinians for anything other conclusion. It seems that there must be some Palestinian state simply by virtue of needing a place to house them. They are rightful in their claim of needing their own country, but not in their claim of deserving one.

Answer 6

Think that Israel created 3 wars in the region, 1965, 1971, 1980's, the 6 days war invading one desertic region of egypt to provocate, the Kippour war also against Jordany that Israel won, then they kept the Cisjordany for them as an extension territory for colons.

They are peace democrats in Israel but Palestinians where there before.
Don't ask the question this way, some americans will tell you they are terrorist, some other that the terrorist is logic because of all the bad treatments Jews impose to arabies on their soil....

Read by yourself :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-Palestinian_conflict

And try to sumerize, Gerneral Ariel Sharoin did the retreat of the Gaza bank just before retiring, it's a big effort, something great for Arabies living there.... Benjamin Netanyou is the far Right Likoud ex prime Minister but very reluctant to give anything.
Shimon Perez is a great Man, peace process contributor and obliged Foreign affairs Minister because of his popularity from the Yitzhak Rabin times (became Prime Minister in 1992, was shot dead in november 1995 and makes Israelie fall in tears for months... sad days.

The OSLO peace process was the key, but one far right activist break it all !

Guess what, Peace is complicated equation to solve.

Answer 7

You need to start with the understanding that:
Palestine is currently divided among the states of Jordan, Israel, parts of Lebanon and Syria, and the disputed territories (Judea, Samaria, and Gaza).

Answer 8

Israel!

Answer 9

Palestine by a longshot....mind you this is gaining very strong support in Israel as well, as they too are getting sick of the reasons that perpetuate the violence, and are no longer buying their government/media line any more.

Answer 10

Israel for sure.