Should those that work hard to have decent jobs and lives have to pay for those that can’t or won’t?

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I am NOT talking about disabled or elderly/retired. I’m talking about the rest of them. I don’t consider addiction a disability either.
I have worked long and hard, made some mistakes and pulled myself out of some pretty decent holes to get to where I can make a decent wage and get good benefits. No one gave me a nickel when I was down. Should I have to pay for others that are in the same place I was before or that don’t feel like working?
When I had a crappy job, I didn’t have 401k or medical insurance(I was also smart enough not to have any children during that time). I didn’t make enough to get by on. I worked hard to get ahead. Why isn’t this expected of everyone?

Just to add on…If a person is willing to work fulltime to g et ahead, I agree with the person that said to still subsidize them to some level. I would have loved a lifeline when I was drowning, and understand that some people need more than they can get at first. For anyone capable of working that isn’t retired, a paystub for a 40 hr week should be required for any gov’t assistance.
I’m sure that given the chance, most humans would aquire pride and strive for more on their own.

Answer 1

because they are willing to take care of the weak and soft because they are good little sheep and they dont want us strong ones to get by i worked hard and long to make my way out and i look back at the bucket and see all the other crabs still reaching hey look u want to do something about write your congressman or dont pay ur state taxes here in pa 40% of the budget is going to public welfare someones gotta start this battle some time

Answer 2

You are absolutely right. I would re-state your original question to only apply to those who won't.

If someone truly can't, then I do not see a problem with helping them out. The problem is that entitlement programs are designed as a lifestyle, and punishes those who try to improve their situation. The whole idea that "you make too much to qualify" is stupid. How about "with your income, you can get this much ASSISTANCE."

You see if someone is getting say $2000/month from all entitlement programs and they get a job to earn $500/month. The entitlement programs decrease their "benefit" by $1000/month, so earning $500 makes their income go DOWN $500.

These programs should be revamped completely to do just the opposite. Same scenario, but someone gets a job earning $500. Reduce their benefits by $250...a NET GAIN for trying and the taxpayer costs DECREASE!

Answer 3

Of course not but the "other party" feels they're entitled to spend what you earn and they believe in that good old Marxist philosophy of Redistribution of Wealth.

Remember the old Aesop's fable about the Grasshopper and the Ants? The ant's worked hard, planned for their future and families while the Grasshopper did nothing and then expected the ants to share their food/wealth etc... Doesn't that sound very familiar now days ??

Answer 4

Though you have actually described communism (work to your ability and receive according to your needs), I feel you are correct.

The hard part is drawing the line at whom is needy and whom is downright dead weight.

I recommend those whom are successful at something that doesn't give directly back to society, such as entertainers, CEOs, etc. have a separate pool of distribution as well as us commoners. There are lazy wealthy as well as lazy poor.

Answer 5

You should be VERY proud of what you have done.

Your question does, however, bring up some interesting questions about our economy compared to the economies of Europe. I think there are MANY wrong impressions of the "leftist" states of Europe.

There was a fascinating article in today's Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Please read.

Answer 6

Yes, but we shouldn't have to live with them. Keep New Orleans to Miami for there kind. We will support them, we live North of them in US #2. After the CW II , we decided to shoot only for Heaven and fence folks like them in Hell. So it's as plain as day, you either "got it or you don't". After all, we're the ones who paid for it all. Please think outside of the supplied government blog, as it's the only way to really get anywhere.

Answer 7

I agree. *clapping loudly*

Once you remove the elderly, disabled, etc. those who won't make an effort should not be rewarded.

Answer 8

it is.

Answer 9

Very true!!!!!!!!