I live in texas, Have a BA in Business Administration, Intelligent, confident, still young, 24 and It's been approx 10 mos, Ok I am not sure what job I should be at but I know it's not Where I am working where I barely get 10 bucks an hour. Where are all the opportunities they said I'd get? I applied to many companies and most could care less I have a BA they want experience. This is BS. Seriously. My cousin has a job as an Underwater Welder gets paid 100 times of what I get a week. For all you people majoring in business its all balony, Get a degree in a trade in whatever you want, wish I did the same, least I'd be more happy if I had passion in what I do.
2007-10-10 03:49:42 · 10 answers · asked by Vox P 1 in Education & Reference ➔ Higher Education (University +)
Wow we have some pricks on here. I guess some people didn't read when I said I have applied to several companies. As far as internships, they pay you less to nothing, not even 10 bucks....I have bills, including student loans. I don't have mommy and daddy to take care of me after college. I am very independent. As for the guy who is in medical school...I could care less about you talking about everyone in business were drinking and partying? uhh isn't everyone in college? your buddies at med school were out there with us. You can live your life, trying to get rich or trying to be happy. Either way it's none of my business.So save that prejudgement for someone who cares. Also thanks to the guy who told me the chain of command. I am more incouraged to do what I want thanks.
2007-10-10 07:33:17 · update #1
Yes, vocational grads will initially make more than academic grads. Often much more.
But, in 5 years, the welder is still "a welder" and is making the same amount of money. The business grad has (if he's ambitious at all) moved up from "third assistant helper to the VP for busywork" to Assistant to the VP and is the supervisor of those welders (and a bunch of other vocations).
In five-ten years that welder will be moaning that all his "boss's boss" (the business grad) does all day is sit in that air conditioned office drinking coffee (or soda in this generation) while it's the welders that do all the real work and get nothing for it. "those 'executives' are always flying around the world and going on cruises..." the welder will bemoan.
So, I'm sorry someone in b-school lied to you. Here's what we want in the real world of business as a qualification, you can elect to punch your tickets or not - your call. If not, go be a welder.
* We want a degree. It's 2007 and an education is essential. You can't manage anything in my business without a degree - uneducated mistakes will cost me too much money.
* We want experience (on top of and after the degree) or we can't be sure you can do anything at all. We don't call flipping burgers at McD "management experience" so what mom said about "take any job" is wrong! We want relevant and meaningful experience in the trench. If you want to manage fast food then flip burgers and wait tables -- if you want to be a banker, stay out of the food people's trench.
* We want you to take some responsibility. Chances are I'm not out looking to hire you. I really don't care if you have a career or not. However, if you can show me how you are good for my business, we may be able to make an arrangement. When you say "I'm not sure what job I should be at" I see "I'm just hanging out waiting for someone to hand me a good job" - it's just not going to happen that way. It's not - no way - not how we work out here.
* We want passion. If I'm going to pay you $30-50K to start at my company, I don't want to hear "I'm not sure what job I should be at..." I want to hear "I'm the best xyz-person available right now" I don't want to hear "I'll take any job that pays over $45K"; no ^&*T, so will everyone else. The question is "why you?"
Adjust the attitude - you have no inherent right to a good job just because, like 1 out of 3 other people out there, you went to college. I've got 200 undergraduate and 40 graduate hours with 25 years work experience -- your BA to me when you apply for a job means you're a beginner, novice, newbie, wannabe, etc.
Prove something to us - convince us that you're the right one. That means pay your dues like we all did.
So, pick a field. Then pick a job in that field. Get the foundation (sucky, low level) experience in that field. Then apply for jobs in that field, if you haven't been promoted into it. That's how the train to the top works.
Here's an example:
Hotel general managers need a degree and experience. Having a BA in Hotel Management without experience will get you a job at the front desk (which doesn't require a BA).
Doing a great job at the front desk will get you advanced rapidly to Front Office Manager. Doing a great job as Front Office Manager will get you advanced to one of the professional support functions (Director of Marketing, Group Sales) within a year or 18 months. Doing a great job in that function will get you moved around in functions a few times over 36 months and then advanced to Assistant General Manager. Being a great AGM will get you advanced to the first open General Manager gig with the company. If you have the bachelor's degree.
Remember the front desk job we started with? Those people who didn't have a bachelor's degree that you were working with back then still are working the front desk and complaining that they can't get promoted and how it's not fair that you need a degree to manage a multi-million dollar property. They sound as silly as the new college grad who thinks it's not fair that you need experience before you're allowed to manage a multi-million dollar property. ☺
That's how it really works. Wanna be a welder or a General Manager? The paths are easy to figure out for both,
2007-10-10 04:29:08 · answer #1 · answered by CoachT 7 · 11⤊ 0⤋
Thats a bummer but I have heard of this happening to Business majors before. I suggest you maybe look into a graduate program for Accounting. It is still business and you will always find a job. Also, definitely start looking for internships and maybe the university has something where you can work Pt and get a Masters.
This is only my opinion because I chose Accounting and I am finding lots of opportunities. Look at all your options and keep looking. Definitely speak to a career advisor at the university if you can.
2007-10-10 05:16:00 · answer #2 · answered by CaliGirl 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I have been teaching business for 28 years, and right now I don't have a single former student who has complained about being out of work. It has happened, during recessionary periods, but all of those people are now working. You need some advising, fast. It could be that you are in an area where there are no managerial jobs (I'm in a city, so there are plenty), or it could be that your attitude is coming through on your applications. I don't know, but you should be doing better.
One problem is that you imply you don't have experience. As I look at position announcements, almost all of the "entry-level" jobs require 1-3 years of prior experience, so we have made sure that our students do a number of internships before they graduate. By the time they finish, most of them aren't even looking for jobs, because they are hired by someone they did an internship for.
If you want to let me know where you are and send me your resume, I'll see if I can make some suggestions for you.
2007-10-10 03:57:57 · answer #3 · answered by neniaf 7 · 5⤊ 1⤋
Keep looking. I wish you the best. My friend had an engineering degree and it took him forever to find a decent job because he was so lazy. He ended up working as a bartender until he got caught drinking on the job. Have you had any internships in college?
2007-10-10 04:29:13 · answer #4 · answered by Dr S 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When I first start looking for jobs, I took any intern and temp position to get experience. They were low paying, but they got me experience. Also, I looked in other cities and other states to find a company that was going to give me a chance. My main goal was to get experience and temporarily sacrifice the money and location.
So you should also think about expanding your horizons and take low paying jobs in your field and look in other cities or states to find a job that will give you experience.
The most important thing that you need on your resume now is experience.
2007-10-10 04:30:49 · answer #5 · answered by atl_ace1 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
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2016-04-08 00:52:24 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
It would help if you told us where you went to school. Business Degrees vary in quality. I would be surprised to hear of your troubles if you had a degree from UT-Austin -- but would expect this kind of result if you got it from an On-Line college.
BTW -- was there a question?
2007-10-10 04:07:10 · answer #7 · answered by Ranto 7 · 4⤊ 1⤋
welcome to reality, maybe now you realize you shouldn't have gone with such an easy major... or started along a career path where there is SO much competition, after all business grads are a dime a dozen, everyone thinks they will be the next gordon gekko or donald trump... truth is, try a career change.
Try the trades if you are itnerested in welding.... plumbing is great money, as is electrician.
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2016-07-09 14:24:20 · answer #9 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Welcome to the real world my friend.
Hang in there, something will turn up.
Keep your spirit up.
2007-10-10 04:00:26 · answer #10 · answered by Zoivic.com 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋