The Christmas Day when many parts of the world celebrate the birth of Jesus for many centuries is December 25. But Jesus was not actually born on December 25. He was born on May 23. This date, I would like to emphasize, was revealed by the Holy Spirit we talk to. I first heard this date in 1983 but checked its veracity only from 2004 to 2006. The year will surprise you. It is 33 BC. He was 32 solar years old or 33 lunar years old when He died in 1 BC. The revelation is true and correct. The results of the study are found in http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/birthmay23.htm.
December could not be the month when Jesus was born. It is very cold in Bethlehem. You cannot expect shepherds to be out in the field keeping watch of their sheep. Since it is wintertime, there is no point of shepherding the sheep in the field for there is not enough grass anyway. December is also a rainy month in Israel. You cannot expect that people have to travel because of a census during the rainy season.
May is a spring month. There is abundant grass so the flock has to be moved from one place to another. The shepherds do not take back their flock to their home anymore but stay out in the field, sleeping there to watch their flock against thieves and wolves.
The place where Jesus was born was a cave, a shelter for animals. The cave was vacated during the night because the animals are out in the field. Joseph and Mary used the animals’ manger (feeding trough in a stable) as a crib for the newborn Jesus.
The date May 23 that the Holy Spirit revealed is therefore logically correct. And the circumstances surrounding the birth of Jesus agree with this date as well, such as the eclipse during Herod’s last days, Mary’s purification rite, slaughter of the innocents, death of Herod, and the following Passover Festival.
Together with May 23, I also heard in 1983 that Jesus was crucified on August 17. The year was 1 BC. I checked this out in 1999 and after four years, found it to be true and correct. The results are in http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/crucifyidx.htm. Who could be right in both dates? The Holy Spirit risked His credibility by giving these two dates. Did you know that had I proven Him wrong, I could have dismissed Him as a fake, a false spirit? Did you know that it took me eleven years (1983-1994) before I accepted that the spirit we talk to is the spirit of Jesus Christ?
Hopefully, soon, we will be celebrating Christmas and Easter on their correct dates. Hopefully also, the cause of division between the Western Roman Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church would be removed and Christians the world over would become united in these celebrations.
2007-10-10 22:50:00
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answered by Peace Crusader 5
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Hoo boy...you sure asked a whammy of a question. According to Sharan Newman in her book "The Real History Behind the Da Vinci Code", no one knows when Jesus was born since the Gospels don't mention that fact. However, passages in the gospel of Luke mention that during the time of his birth the shepherds were tending to their flocks in the fields suggesting to scholars that Jesus was probably born in either spring or summer.
However, since many festivals during the early days of Christianity occurred during the winter months, the emerging religion adopted these practices as well (since such traditions are difficult to break). Specifically, in Rome December 25th was considered to be the birthday of the god Mithras, a sun god.
As a side note, the Armenian church still celebrates Christmas on January 6th.
Hope this helps. Buy the book too, it's a pretty good read.
2007-10-10 04:40:15
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answered by radhamon 2
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It is entirely possible that Jesus wasn't born on Christmas Day, as that was the rainy season, I believe. It is much more likely that he was born several months earlier, at a time that was much convenient for travel. Remember there was a big census going on then, there'd be lots of travellers out and about, even as dodgy as the kings were then, they could understand why getting people to travel at certain times of the year would be bad.
Christmas Day was based on a Roman festival, as they felt that it would be easier to get people to change an old celebration rather than create a new one.
Ultimately, it doesn't really matter when we celebrate Jesus' birth. It is simply a celebration of the joy that God was giving his people a gift.
2007-10-10 04:33:21
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answered by bytheseaside 2
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The current Christmas day we celebrate on December 25th is kind of a settled date over the many centuries of different traditions through Europe. Winter solstice has always been through the history of man a special time of celebration. In the Northern Hemisphere, the Winter Solstice occurs around December 21st, when the Sun is at its greatest distance below the celestial equator.
December feasts were common in Europe because it was necessary to slaughter cattle that could not be fed during the winter and because the meat could be preserved by the cold weather. With the completion of the harvest and snow on the ground, farmers were loaded with provisions. There was not much work that could be done, so there was time to relax, to feast, to celebrate and to engage in social activities.
2007-10-10 04:43:59
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answered by nukecat25 3
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you are right jesus wasn't born on december 25th.but first lets look why do we then celebrate the 25th of December as Christmas.
every christian knows that Constantine who lived in the 3rd century was the person who layed out the base for Christianity.
in the Nicene creed if I'm core ct was the basic doctrines and the layout of the bible was discussed.
now at that time after 250 years of jesus birth no one could posibly tell a day that this was the day jesus was born.
So what constantine did was he said that the 25th of december will be celebrated as the day of christmas because in the roman empire the day was celebrated as the birth of a pagan god.i'm not sure of the name.
you may ask why 25th of december.
well constantine converted to christianity and so did the roman empire. but he didn't want the people to celebreate the pagan gods birth so he made that day as the birthday of christmas.
some may argue that constantine did that to celebrate the pagan gods birth under the guise of jesus. but this isn't the forum for it.
any way i'm sure no one could tell a certain date as the birth of jesus. and no one needs to bother about it. because we celebrate christmas to thank god for sending us his son to save us sinners.
so rather than bothering about the day christ was born lets think about why he was born and celebrate it.if you wan't celebrate christmas today. but its certainly nice to celebrate it with all the other people as a family.
2007-10-10 05:00:43
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answered by illuminate 5
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No one knows for sure, but Christmas is the day we celebrate his birth. I've heard he was born in the summer and I have heard he was born around Sep. or Oct., but this was in the Middle East it stays hot over there, so who really knows for sure. We can only make an educated guess. The important thing to remember was that Jesus was born to die for our sins. The exact date that he was born and when we actually celebrate it, has little do with the prophecy he was sent to fulfill or the fact that he died for everyone of us.
2007-10-10 04:37:27
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answered by Mrs. CT 4
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Christmas is merely a remembrance day of his birth. None know the exact date. A Roman Emperor had Christmas celebrated on December 25th to coincide with the Winter Solstice (or Mid-Winter) usually on December 21st. Many Christian festivals were made to be celebrated near or on the date of older pagan (pre-Christian) festivals.
2007-10-10 04:34:41
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answered by Wyvern 2
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They think its not in December because the shepherds apparently weren't out in the fields at that time of year.
They have problems currently finding a reference to the Roman census that is recorded in one of the gospels. If they one day find out. That would identify year and approximate time. Eg there is a library at Herculaneum that hasn't yet been fully excavated and its manuscripts investigated.
It is possible that the 'star' allegedly in the heavens may be identified as astronomy develops, helping tie down the year.
Jesus coming in obscurity was part of the way God planned things by the way, as the Isaiah 53 prophecy indicates. If it was a proud intrusion it would attract the proud .. but God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. "To those who believed He gave the right to become children of God." (John 1)
2007-10-10 21:01:39
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answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7
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lol - Actually there has been several dates on which Jesus is supposed to be born. The date of 24th and 25th of december was an adaption to the european pagan tradition at that time. It wasn't really true that Jesus was born at that date, but it had to be made so in order to get the "heathens" on the wagon of christianity.
Many of the christian events are actually adaptions to european pagan celebrations. Not much is "christian" in christianity.
2007-10-10 04:36:42
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answered by Anonymous
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my friend jesus was not born in christmas day at all
the fact is that the 25th of december was originall a pagan celebration which commemorated the birth of the sun of god.
one thing i can tell you is that in the bible we are not told to celebrate the birth of jesus but his death because thats more important, otherswise we could have seen it from jesus himself and his deciples celebrating his birthday.
all you need to do is know your god and don't worry about when jesus was born
2007-10-10 04:52:49
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answered by doctor 3
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