People who answer, and backyard breeders.?

Question

I understand why you all are against people breeding, especially people who are uneducated about the process, and their breed. However, I notice most people who respond to such things are quite rude, and impolite. While yes, the overpopulation is a big issue, there's many dogs in pounds. But they're not just mutts, there's pure breeds in there too. Hell, I've adopted a 4 year old husky from the pound, who had his papers and everything. So professional breeders who breed, be it for money, or themselves, or any reason are just as much to blame as backyard breeders. The only difference is is professional breeders are filling our pounds with Pure breeds, instead of mixed breeds.

Instead of calling someone the scum of the earth, or insulting them, try politely suggesting that they check the pound for something they'd want, before breeding, or buying from a breeder. instead of insulting them, or being rude.

No, Jean. I'll stop whining when your parent's regret not teaching you some god-damned manners.


Yorky, I'm not trying to imply that anyone specifically has little to no knowledge of their breed, or the breeding process.

My whole point is, just because someone's a backyard breeder does NOT mean that they're ONLY breeding for money, some people love their dogs, and when their poor pup dies, they want someone else related to that pup to love just as much.

I'm not a backyard breeder, and I am attending school next semester to learn about Animals, more specifically dogs, and veterinarian stuff.

In the end, my question was:

"Why don't you guys get some manners, and learn how to deal with people respectably. Instead of insulting them; and trash talking them, why not suggest a good alternative politely?"

@Me M

-Good point, both Respectable breeders who breed for show quality dogs, and back yard breeders be it breeding purebred dogs, or mixed breed are BOTH TO BLAME FOR OVER POPULATION. People, why would you breed MORE purebred dogs, or ANY DOGS AT ALL if there are so many ******* dogs in pounds?

--I understand there are a lot of Backyard Breeders who are out for an easy buck; but there are people like me who would be more than HAPPY to give away a puppy for FREE to someone I truly believe can provide a wonderful life for my puppies.

--No, Jean. I will not realize that this question is "ignorant."

No one has ANY GOOD REASON for hating, or insulting a person SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BREED THEIR DOG.

I can understand if they're breeding a pitbull male with a chihuaha or something, That poor dog would die. Or if they're selling the dogs to anyone who asks, without really analyzing them to see if they can provide for the puppy.

For me to ask people to learn some ******* manners is not ignorant.

For the record:

By professional breeders I meant people who are reputable breeders who have bred multiple championship bloodlines.

Jess, as of this moment I'm a byb. However, I am VERY selective about who I give my pups too, and I usually try to have homes lined up BEFORE I even think of breeding, infact, I usually have nearly every puppy placed in a home before the dam is even pregnant. I always am MORE THAN WILLING to take the dog back, as I can, and am able to provide the necessary care, and training. *large property near the mountains where I keep my huskies*

Dobiz I completely understand your point. Yes, I do get quite heated whenever I see someone who's bred their dog, and is not capable to provide the necessary care; but at the same time, I'm glad they're asking these questions, and upset that they're asking them a bit late; but, I'm none the less happy that they're asking, instead of shrugging it off.

--I do NOT plan on breeding my dogs until I'm 100% confident that I can provide the necessary care for the puppies, and the dam while she is pregnant, and in labor, I'm not going to be a backyard breeder, I plan on breeding show quality dogs, and I do plan on showing them.

The whole point is, is stop being a rude prick, and learn manners. Telling someone they're an ignorant piece of **** because they want to breed their beloved dog, is just wrong. While I won't deny the fact, breeding the dog instead of adopting a dog whom needs a whom is just as much wrong.

Answer 1

Angel, there's nothing wrong with your Siberian/Wolf mix dog. There is something wrong with someone knowingly creating mutts.

Adopting a dog from the pound that has "papers" shows no indication of the dog's quality. While he may have been a great dog, the likelihood he came from a responsible breeder is slim to nil. Its nice that so many people claim there are "purebreds" in the shelters.. sure, there are some, but the vast majority of dogs are not. I live in an area where nearly all "purebred"(which is judged simply by appearance not by any actual papers on the dog) dogs released to the humane society or animal control are pulled out nearly immediately by a purebred rescue. There are 2 major exceptions.. black labrador mixes and husky mixes.

I tend to be blunt. I don't consider that rude. I'd have less of an issue with backyard breeders and those creating mixes if they actually acted responsibly... which includes doing all testing (OFA, CERF, heart & thyroid as well any other issues for the breed or the mix of breeds), studying pedigrees, being willing to scrap breeding plans when issues (such as producing a pup affected with a genetic anomaly) monitoring ALL dogs produced including the pets, guaranteeing all pups into adulthood (3 years) and requiring return of the dog if it needs rehoming. Not to mention ACTUALLY studying the reproductive system of a dog AND studying the best methods for raising pups. There is so much a breeder can do to make sure a pup does well in its new home... but it takes work. And then there is screening new homes.... and choosing the right home for a pup.

My last litter I screened over 100 questionaires, did 50 phone interviews and had 10 families out to interview... all to sell 4 pups. That's work. I know none of the pups I've produced will end up in shelters... they're all microchipped and registered in my name... a new owner can be added.. but my name will always be on the dog.

I have no issues with breeding. I have issues with irresponsible breeding.

Answer 2

I have nothing against mutts, just against people going out of their way to breed mongrels on purpose.

Most BYB's only breed for the money they think they will make, they don't generally care where to dogs go or how healthy the puppies will be and so they just add to the over population issues just to make a quick buck.

Good on you for getting a rescue dog, but how many people out there will pass up a puppy and get an adult dog from the pound? Not enough.

Registered Breeders will generally only breed when they have enough people on their waiting list to make sure there are no homeless dogs.

Answer 3

I agree with your point. I do see a purpose of breeding for show or work lines, but to think that the puppies of these breeders don't end up in shelters would be a lie. Mixed and pure breeds we all know to well are filling the shelters. These pups are from backyard and professional breeders. The only difference is that if a purebred ends up at the pound their chances of being rescued by a breed specific shelter is much higher.

Answer 4

There is no such thing as a "professional" breeder. Responsible breeder and backyard breeder. Responsible breeders do all the genetic testing, temperment testing and try to improve the breed, backyard breeders stick 2 dogs together and try to make money. If your not breeding for the betterment of the breed, your a backyard breeder.

25% of dog that wind up in shelters are purebreds, with papers almost ALL from backyard breeders.

You can talk to these BYB's till your blue in the face but they won't see anything wrong with sticking 2 dogs together to make a buck. They won't give a $hit that all these dogs are being put down due to their irresponsibility of breeding more dogs than there is homes. Who cares if there are more dogs than homes?????? Let it be know you BYB's there are more dogs than homes availble for them, keep on bringing these litters of pups right?????/

Answer 5

Ok, I think people are rude because of the ignorant questions that are being asked. I do believe that most people in this group are very passionate about dogs and would go out of their way to help answer legitimate questions. The dog lovers just get angry with people that want answers to questions that they should know BEFORE breeding a dog.

As far as nicely suggesting that they go to the shelters/humane society...

These people know all about these places! They still chose to breed unhealthy pups, with bad temperaments and turn them into the shelters when they can't find them a home.

When you are passionate about something and you see that thing being hurt or destroyed people tend to get upset and become rude towards the one causing the pain.

Answer 6

"Real" breeders are continuing and improving the bloodlines of the breed. Without them, the breeds would die out.

No real breeder breeds for money.

Most people DO suggest checking pounds and shelters, but it doesn't usually come up when the question is "When can I breed my puppy?" Sometimes trying to protect the welfare of animals comes before "being polite" to people who ought to know better.

EDIT: Did you even HAVE a purpose besides getting everyone all worked up over your ignorance? Or are you just another TROLL with nothing better to do? All you're doing is arguing with every answer you get because they aren't telling you, "It's okay honey, you go ahead and force your so-called 'pet' to pop out puppies just as fast as she can so you can make a profit off her health and wellbeing." You're no better than any of those puppy mills out there, and pretending that you are is just a fantasy in your head. YOU are the one who is overpopulating shelters with YOUR dogs, and you want to lecture US about telling people to adopt dogs??? What kind of logic is that? Do you have so many puppies of yours in shelters now that you just need some help trying to get them adopted or what? I pity your dogs... they'll never know what it means to actually cared about.

Answer 7

Your question?

There is a big difference in byb breeders and reputable breeders. Reputable breeders are breeding the same breed together. They make sure these animals are healthy and in that, the pups have a much greater chance of being healthy animals.

BYB breed any ol dog together, not knowing the temperments, not knowing if the breeds would be compatiable and surely have no clue if the animals are healthy.. most of the time they are notr being tested for anything, the byb typically are just looking to make a buck.

Answer 8

Well if you didn't know, the term Back Yard Breeder is a loaded one that brings up strong feelings in people. It gives an image of people breading for money and not caring about the health of dogs they breed. Basically puppy mills. Backyard breeders often do have papers or the dogs they bred from did. Most people aren’t thinking of a litter of mutts given away to family and friends, but of papered animals bred for profit from bad lines when you hear backyard breeder. It is a very big buzz term. It has nothing to do with you having an actual yard or how big your kennel is. Good breading is not about pure bloodlines, but having some idea of what those bloodlines are. I have seen the results of bad inbreeding by those out to make a buck with "papered" dogs. You could breed wonderful pets with healthy and mentally stable lines that are mutts. Mutts are great, but breeding for fun isn't.

You are right about purebreds in pounds. I've worked in shelters and almost half our dogs were purebreds or pet store bought (don't have AKC or such, but still not a true mix). Some "Kennel Club Breeders" are no better either, and have done great damage to the health of dogs for profit. A good breeder only breeds animals when they know their are homes for them, and good homes too, not the first person with cash in hand. Bad breeders and pet stores do great harm by letting people take dogs home as puppies without educated new owners on what the breed is about, what kind of activity and training they will need, and are no where to be found to ask questions of down the road. Then you see young dogs dumped in pounds because no one said "no" to the person who thought a purebred husky could live in a tiny apt. and only got 30min of walking a day. Every good breeder I have met has told me you can't live on what you make selling dogs. I have no problem with mutts, but selling mix breeds as some kind of fad for hundreds or thousands of dollars is terrible. It is also terrible if they are said to be healthier because they are a mix. This isn’t true, it is a sales pitch because of the bad rap purebred get because of bad breeder of so call champion dogs that are pretty, but have all kinds of genetic problems. You breed two poorly bred papered dogs you don’t get a healthier dog at all, doesn’t work like that. Too many people have no idea of the work it takes before they breed, and think breeding their dog will make back what they spent on it. Some are naive, so are just uncaring. We live in a throw away society, and that is true of dogs too.

If you want to breed dogs, great get all the info you can. Talk to other breeders. Go to dog shows. Get all the info about the laws in your state for breeders. Do it because of a love for the dog and the breed. Making new breeds is not an answer to health problems, but mixed mutts are bad either. As a breeder your goal should be to have healthy, sound, and good tempered animals who are an example for the breed. Line breeding gets out of control though, and is a real problem, but so is mixing for the sake of mixing. Whatever dogs you do end up breeding should be healthy and robust, not just winners of ribbons. That can be true of mutts, or crosses. Just be sure you know what the market in your area is like before you plan a breeding. The last thing you want is a bad owner taking one of your babies and dropping him in a pound.

PS If your ***** is your pet first don’t breed her!!! You will never get over loosing a ***** you didn’t need to breed while whelping. I have seen it happen more then once, “my dog is so sweet I want to have more like her for friends who see how great she is”. You will loose puppies and you will even loose bitches. It is part of the deal. Not everyone knows or is prepared for that fact. Or else they can’t afford the high vet bills when a big problem with birthing arrives, can you say prolapsed uterus? Good Luck!

Answer 9

Reputable breeders breed quality dogs to quality dogs, we need well bred dogs, not more poorly bred, ill health ridden ones.

Reputable breeders do everything they can to keep their dogs out of pounds. Reputable breeders are also active in their breeds rescue efforts.

An unreputable, or byb will do none of this.

Answer 10

how can it not make you a least a little bit upset when a person who is breeding their dogs goes on yahoo answers to ask
"omg i think my dog is in labor what do i do"
or
"omg the mama dog ate one of her pups the day after labor when i was at work all day"
or
"puppies look sick and weak and i don't have any money for vet what do i do"
or
"i just adopted a 4 week old puppy who cries all the time"
how can that not touch your heart and make you MAD? do you think these people have a right to breed their cute little one? putting the mother and puppies at risk? producing unhealthy puppies? i would like to see your calm respond to a thread titled "all puppies have a bloody diarrhea and i have no cash for vet what can i do at home"

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by the way i don;t think these people deserve respect