The Trinity is a Catholic doctrine. It was voted upon and created at the Nicaean council in 325 AD by the roman emperor Constantine (Who was in the process of merging Christianity and Paganism for political reasons).
So if you're Catholic, I understand how you can believe in this. However, if you're any other version of Christian, how is it that you believe in a "revelation" by someone that you don't consider inspired by God???
There is no mention of the Trinity in the Bible. Additionally, you have to work really hard to make "The Trinity" fit into other Biblical scripture and teachings.
I thought this was a good talk on the matter: (13 minute MP3)
http://broadcast.lds.org/genconf/2007/10/20/GC_2007_10_27_HollandJR__02381_eng_.mp3
2007-10-09 09:36:00 · 11 answers · asked by Ender 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The thing is that all the Protestant religions have their roots in Catholicism. That's where they came from, that's where they draw their beliefs from..... It's like asking why a child taken from his birth parents still ends up kinda looking like them. They're where he came from.
As you point out, the Trinitarian doctrine was adopted in the early 4th century. Most of the Reformation happened long after that- Martin Luther (1483-1546), John Calvin (1509-1564), John Wycliff (mid 1320s-1384), etc...
These men, among others, lived at a time when the Trinity was considered fact... We don't question the reality of gravity- why should these men have questioned the teaching of the Trinity?
2007-10-09 10:01:34 · answer #1 · answered by Yoda's Duck 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The word "Trinity" comes from two Latin terms, Tri which means three and Unity which means one.
So Trinity means Three in One.
There was no vote at the Council of Nicea about the Trinity.
The concept of the Trinity had been firmly established as part of the New Testament Church's fundamental doctrines since the first century.
The Trinity has been taught in the Bible but not using that terminology since Genesis 1:1.
Below are a couple of links which explain the Trinity pretty well and by clicking on those links you'll save me a lot of typing.
Remember that not everything the Roman Church did was bad. I'll agree most of its new doctrines which were implemented after about the year 800 AD was bad.
In contast to that, everything Mohammed did was wrong. Would you agree with that? Would you agree that Mohammed was a false prophet who started a false religion?
God Bless,
Pastor Art
2007-10-09 09:56:17 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion -- the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another.
Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God." In this Trinity of Persons the Son is begotten of the Father by an eternal generation, and the Holy Spirit proceeds by an eternal procession from the Father and the Son. Yet, notwithstanding this difference as to origin, the Persons are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent. This, the Church teaches, is the revelation regarding God's nature which Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came upon earth to deliver to the world: and which she proposes to man as the foundation of her whole dogmatic system.
In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word trias (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A.D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom ("Ad. Autol.", II, 15). The term may, of course, have been in use before his time. Afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian ("De pud." c. xxi). In the next century the word is in general use. It is found in many passages of Origen ("In Ps. xvii", 15). The first creed in which it appears is that of Origen's pupil, Gregory Thaumaturgus. In his Ekthesis tes pisteos composed between 260 and 270, he writes:
There is therefore nothing created, nothing subject to another in the Trinity: nor is there anything that has been added as though it once had not existed, but had entered afterwards: therefore the Father has never been without the Son, nor the Son without the Spirit: and this same Trinity is immutable and unalterable forever
2007-10-09 09:41:45 · answer #3 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Actually as I understand it the trinity was believed before the council of Nicea. It was just formalized by the Catholic church then. It is not hard to defend the trinity from the Bible the easiest verse to defend it is 1 John 5:7.
Since your link is to a mormon broadcast I have to say your question is amusing. There is no mention of kolob in the Bible either. Neither is there any mention of Jesus and Satan being brothers. Neither is there anything that says Jesus is a created being. Neither is there any evidence in the Bible that God was once a man. Funny to attack something as not Biblical when almost the whole belief system of Mormons is not supported by the Bible.
2007-10-09 09:43:45 · answer #4 · answered by Bible warrior 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Dang, folks in the south say the holy trinity is onions, bell peppers, and celery! And a lot of them claim to be catholic. Now I'm confused.
2007-10-09 09:47:15 · answer #5 · answered by Flatpaw 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Are you saying what I think you're saying? "... it was voted on and CREATED at the Nicean council..."? You mean that until 325 AD, the Trinity did not exist? What was the relationship between God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit prior to that?
The Trinity was NOT made up by the Catholic church. Baptizing babies, and praying to dead people was, as well as worshiping Mary, and pretending that HUMAN PRIESTS have the power to forgive sins. Jesus was crucified because He claimed to have authority to forgive sins, thus claiming His deity as only God has that authority. BTW - The deity of Christ is one example of the Trinity in scripture.
2007-10-09 09:43:57 · answer #6 · answered by teran_realtor 7 · 0⤊ 4⤋
This is the dumbest "question" I've read all day. The Trinity is in Genesis 1:1. Were there catholics back when that was written too?
LOL you people never give up.
2007-10-09 09:40:59 · answer #7 · answered by CJ 6 · 2⤊ 3⤋
You are mistaken. The triune God has told us that he is who he is in the Bible. He is Father, Son and Spirit. And no... that is not a Catholic concept, that is the correct understanding of scripture.
2007-10-09 09:39:38 · answer #8 · answered by William D 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
the trinity isn't called "the trinity" in the bible, but it is there. god, jesus, and the holy spirit are all referred to as GOD. since, they are all separately referred to as God in various instances, they are one and the same.
http://www.christring.org/shortseries/trinity.htm
2007-10-09 09:41:11 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why would you believe anything that was contrary to science and your experience????
2007-10-09 09:38:37 · answer #10 · answered by April 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋