I was taught not to cuss, spit, be loud, or make bodily noises around women. Always be cheerful and confident so they feel safe and protected. I was taught to avoid any emotional, provocative, or controversial topics no to hurt their feelings. Let them talk and never to contradict them because they like talking and feeling important. With gender boudaries so blurry these days, do you think these rules are outdated?
2007-10-09
05:17:03
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➔ Gender Studies
Squid, your mom is such a lovely lady and you are such a silly boy!
2007-10-09
06:20:35 ·
update #1
Barry, I was about to get mad at you, but then I realized that you were taking it in the a... for years! That can make anyone angry... I'll just say this you need many many years of therapy...
2007-10-10
04:54:48 ·
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I very much agree. You rock Ronnie. Be the old fashioned man that you are. Cheers
2007-10-09 09:10:33
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answered by $Mafia Girl$ 3
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I think several of those are just standard social rules; You wouldn't cuss, spit or be loud at work either (unless you're in construction or something); same goes for provocative or controversial topics that could offend someone.
In regards to letting women talk and never contradict them, this is basically a stereotype which comes from the idea that women often voice their thoughts out loud and may not be looking for an answer so much as to merely vent their emotions, whereas men tend to only speak with a purpose and assume if you are speaking that you must want an answer; depending on the woman this stereotype could be true or false. Some women would think you're a moron if you just kept nodding and agreeing to everything with no opinion of your own.
2007-10-09 05:37:59
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answered by Anonymous
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Outdated perhaps !
But I do think that a woman as to be the same in confront of men!
I find that some girls giggle a lot for no reason or come up with some uncalled remarks. I do believe that we need to respect each other in an equal way ,and when someone is wrong should be corrected ,not because it 's a woman speaking you need to agree with her ,honestly if a woman is emotional it's a weakness and not a virtue, she should be strong and face the music when she as to .
So you were taught to respect women, that is a good thing! chivalry is still in need , but is far that I believe in it, I believe that it's a two way street, and women should not take advantage of nice men when they meet them.
2007-10-09 05:42:40
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answered by bornfree 5
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I've been watching you and I like what I see. This forum is a great place to meet guys like me.
Your answers really hit the spot. You even argue with the reasonable answers. I noticed that you stated that you know your 'strengths and weaknesses'. Do you?
Me thinks that is a statement of error. You also answered a fed up poster with 'the internet is like the wild west and isn't a place for cowards or the fainthearted'.
Oh, but it is. You see, your weakness is that you go on this thing and state things that no one cares about but you and your little friends.
You are a coward and you are fainthearted because otherwise you'd be in real life with the rest of us contributing to society and trying to make the world a better place.
I especially like your ignorance in assuming that everyone is as dumb as you.
I like the reply to the guy earlier. You called him silly and that you like his mother. Shouldn't that be the other way around.
The things you write make you look like that you dig men. I do too. I've been in this game a long time and I can tell a gay man a mile away. When you start posting some grown-up questions and stop insulting women, then we'll start believing that you actually like them.
You silly little boy.
Love to love you baby.
2007-10-10 02:51:53
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answered by Barry W 1
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Beyond outdated, I think if you're in the house of someone who doesn't cuss or in a group of people who don't cuss you should be respectful and not cuss.
I find spitting and bodily noises to just be gross but it's your right to do it in my presence and if it bothers me too much I can always leave. At any rate, it's not like women don't do the same. we can be awfully loud as well.
Women hate being expected to not contradict as much as you do so how 'bout we all learn how to have an actual debate instead of a fight and we can contradict all we want.
I dare you to go to a women's college, I couldn't count how many snow penises I saw my freshman year when it snowed at my school. Don't underestimate how loud, lewd, provocative or controversial we can be.
As far as no contradiction so we feel all important like that, my school went to Model Arab League and beat out boys from Harvard and various military schools repeatedly. I think it's safe to say women can hold their own.
2007-10-09 06:06:12
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answered by Manny 4
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To a certain extent they are outdated - like never contradicting them or talking about emotional/constroversial topics. I think it is acceptable to say you disagree and.or talk about politics or any other controversial topic, provided you do so respectfully. I still treat them with respect and refrain from cursing or speaking lewdly in front of them. I also agree with the confidence and security statement you made.
It's interesting because it seems like many women don't demand (or dare I say deserve?) respect nowadays, and when a guy gives a girl it, she rarely truly appreciates it (as you can tell from the girls' answers to your question). I don't see why it is such a bad thing. God forbid a guy respects a girl and treats her with dignity and class.... that's sexist!
2007-10-09 05:38:55
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answered by Broad Street Bully 2
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Are you sure all of that conveys respect?
In a very general sort of guide I suppose it can, as rules I think it may be very contrary.
emotional, provocative, or controversial topics.
If you cant discuss these things where will you?
If you cant be provocative (not always negative, talk of carnal things can be) will that be insulting or her job and for you not to reply? (stable relationship or not).
Emotional things (will you marry me, I dont want this relationship, Im sure there are more and different) what are terming emotional? And if you cant talk of them who will talk of them with her - some times she is going to want to share those things, sometimes you will too, if your going to act as roadblock with whom to share for both? (If she is a friend or partner). Have you considered the how these things are spoke of may have as much if not at times more bearing on how the subject is handled?
never to contradict
Mmm is that infront of everyone, in private, where or when its needed. Both men and women sometimes need contradicting. What if she directs someone the wrong way when looking for a hospital? Do you keep your mouth shut because you will contradict or correct the directions? If you never contradict will you be taken as a yes man with out backbone? never believing in anything yourself (equally insulting as contradicting at times). Perhaps it may matter more as to the how you do so, rather than the doing of it.
Your advice in general, not taken as something to stick to but to generally consider, may be very good. Personally I consider more the how things are done, the attitude perhaps.
If I were to be treated like that I wouldnt think much of it, at first I may think it polite, but would they ever be showing their true colours? It would seem suspect after a while - if they stuck rigidly to those rules. That being highly likely, kind of removes the respect from it.
However those as rules to be rigidly followed seem ideal for a butler or maid to a posh household, in that circumstance it would appear to have all the balance of respect due to the job.
For balanced interaction, it fails.
To try to be respectful is wise, and I feel both genders should try to be. Where trying to be, is evident, success sometimes fails (more oft due ot misunderstandings).
2007-10-09 07:01:07
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answered by Andy C 5
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I think those are pretty good rules for casual acquaintances, dates, and strangers. If you have been together for a while with a girl, certainly you can be a bit more casual. My parents taught me similar rules, and I'm very grateful for it. For example, no man wants to hear a woman complain about her looks! Don't act as though you don't have confidence in a guy's abilities if you don't want to hurt his feelings, and of course no disgusting habits like spitting or swearing like a sailor. I don't care how "modern" society is now, making people more comfortable is *always* appropriate. You sound like a great catch to me. :-) I'm always happy that my husband still has great manners, after 7 years.
2007-10-09 05:40:08
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answered by Junie 6
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Yes. More men should me like you. These rules are not outdated at all, unless you make it that way by stop doing what you've been taught to do. Chivalry doesn't have to be "dead" either. Too many men these days don't behave like gentlemen. It is men like you who should continue to be respectful toward women and set a good example.
2007-10-09 07:59:37
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answered by AAA 2
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This is kind of what women were taught in the old days about how to conduct themselves around men. It also kind of describes babysitting. I mean when you play a game with a 4 yr old, don't you sort of sit back and let them win? Is that a good approach to have with a grown woman with equal intelligence?
First of all, no decent woman likes a jellyfish. Any woman who does is domineering. Men SHOULD always be respectful around women, but that includes no vulgarity, opening doors, pulling out chairs, basically minding your manners. Myself and every other woman I know like good conversation, a little friendly debate (although I'd steer clear of politics and religion), and sharing of ideas. Because we have brains.
2007-10-09 05:37:26
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answered by Sandy Sandals 7
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NO I think those rules are just fine for any Gentleman, just because there may be a woman out there that does not mind a rude trash talking gross man who is fit to be a sewer cleaner does not mean that all men need to drop down to her level.
I as a woman appreciate such gestures and they are not wasted on me, I am raising my daughter to be a young lady and my son to be a man of honor, no matter what popular thing is out there it does not change what right and wrong is.
2007-10-09 09:16:55
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answered by Blessed Rain 5
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