What exactly does he do?
What does he say?
Don't give me mumbo jumbo - I want to know the actual things the priest does and says to turn the bread and wine into flesh and blood.
Now, tell me where these things are found in scripture, please.
2007-10-09 03:21:47 · 14 answers · asked by Suzi♥Squirrel 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
still haven't seen any scriptures to back this up.
don't just tell me God does it because I know you believe that the priest has to be a part of it.....so what does he do?
2007-10-09 03:27:55 · update #1
to answer below:
the priest stands at the alter AS CHRIST?!?! You have GOT to be kidding me. That is so blasphemous!!!!!!!!!!!! There is ONLY ONE CHRIST WHO DIED ON THE CROSS!!! NOBODY CAN STAND IN HIS PLACE!!! You make me sick.
2007-10-09 03:29:59 · update #2
The bread is symbolic of Jesus body and the wine is symbolic of His blood. They beat Him to a pulp and nailed His body to a cross.In other words, He offered up His body as a sacrifice. If that wasn't enough, they pierced Him with a sword and His blood poured out to wash away our ignorance and sins.
2007-10-09 03:39:03 · answer #1 · answered by Emerald Book Reviews 6 · 1⤊ 4⤋
I don't know if the priest says some "mumbo-jumbo". I was an altar server and never heard such.
Too, the priest does not do this, rather it is an act of God.
The process is called transsubstantiation. Fundamentalists will say "That's not in the Bible", but neither is the word "Trinity".
Transsubstantion means that the substance of the bread and wine is changed, while its "accidence", the visible, measurable part remains bread and wine. It takes on faith the words of Christ who said "Take this and eat it. this is my body". He didn't say "This symbolizes my body".
In the end though, I'm not a Christian today. My opinion may not matter, but this is what I was taught in my years as a Catholic.
2007-10-09 03:36:00 · answer #2 · answered by Deirdre H 7 · 4⤊ 3⤋
During the Liturgy the Priest asks God for this miracle to take place. The Holy Eucharist is a sacrament and a sacrifice. In the Holy Eucharist, under the appearances of bread and wine, the Lord Christ is contained, offered, and received. (a) The whole Christ is really, truly, and substantially present in the Holy Eucharist. We use the words "really, truly, and substantially" to describe Christ's presence in the Holy Eucharist in order to distinguish Our Lord's teaching from that of mere men who falsely teach that the Holy Eucharist is only a sign or figure of Christ, or that He is present only by His power. All Christians, with but few minor exceptions, held the true doctrine of the Real Presence from the time of Christ until the Protestant Revolution in the sixteenth century. The word "Eucharist" means "Thanksgiving."Christ instituted the Holy Eucharist at the Last Supper, the night before He died. About a year before the Last Supper Our Lord promised to give us the Holy Eucharist. This promise is related in the sixth chapter of the Gospel according to Saint John. The fulfillment of this promise took place at the Last Supper. Christ instituted the Holy Eucharist in this way: He took bread, blessed and broke it, and giving it to His apostles, said: "Take and eat; this is My body;" then He took a cup of wine, blessed it, and giving it to them, said: "All of you drink of this; for this is My blood of the new covenant which is being shed for many unto the forgiveness of sins;" finally, He gave His apostles the commission: "Do this in remembrance of Me." When Our Lord said, "This is My body," the entire substance of the bread was changed into His body; and when He said, "This is My blood," the entire substance of the wine was changed into His blood. Christ could not have used clearer, more explicit words than "This is My body." He did not say, "This is a sign of My body," or "This represents My body," but, "This is My body." Catholics take Christ at His word because He is the omnipotent God. On His word they know that the Holy Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ. After the substance of the bread and wine had been changed into Our Lord's body and blood, there remained only the appearances of bread and wine. Because the appearances of bread and wine remain in the Holy Eucharist, we cannot see Christ with our bodily eyes in this sacrament. We do see Him, however, with the eyes of faith. Our bodily eyes, moreover, do not deceive us when they see the appearances of bread and wine for these appearances really remain after the Consecration of the Mass. God, who created all things from nothing, who fed the five thousand with five loaves, who changed water into wine instantaneously, who raised the dead to life, can change bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ. Although the Holy Eucharist is a great mystery, and consequently beyond human understanding, the principles of sound reason can show that this great gift is not impossible by the power of God. The doctrine of the Eucharist is is not only in the Bible but was taught from the very beginning. Ignatius of Antioch, one of the Apostolic Fathers and a direct disciple of the Apostle John, mentions the Eucharist as "the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ",[17] and Justin Martyr speaks of it as more than a meal: "the food over which the prayer of thanksgiving, the word received from Christ, has been said ... is the flesh and blood of this Jesus who became flesh ... and the deacons carry some to those who are absent."[18]
2016-05-19 22:34:51 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It's all part of the entire Eucharist. It's not any one act. The Priest stands at the Altar as "an alter Christus" (another Christ) - AS Christ.
He takes bread
He gives thanks,
He blesses it,
He breaks it...
And gives it to His Disciples, saying:
"Hoc est einim corpus meum"
This IS my Body.
Matt. 26:26-28; Mark. 14:22,24; Luke 22;19-20; 1 Cor. 11:24-25 - Jesus says, this IS my body and blood. Jesus does not say, this is a symbol of my body and blood.
Matt. 26:26; Mark. 14:22; Luke 22:19-20 - the Greek phrase is "Touto estin to soma mou." This phraseology means "this is actually" or "this is really" my body and blood.
1 Cor. 11:24 - the same translation is used by Paul - "touto mou estin to soma." The statement is "this is really" my body and blood. Nowhere in Scripture does God ever declare something without making it so.
Matt. 26:26; Mark. 14:22; Luke 22:19 - to deny the 2,000 year-old Catholic understanding of the Eucharist, Protestants must argue that Jesus was really saying "this represents (not is) my body and blood." However, Aramaic, the language that Jesus spoke, had over 30 words for "represent," but Jesus did not use any of them. He used the Aramaic word for "estin" which means "is."
Matt. 26:28; Mark. 14:24; Luke 22:20 - Jesus' use of "poured out" in reference to His blood also emphasizes the reality of its presence.
2007-10-09 03:27:24 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋
They cast their priest spells conjuring their god into the bread reagent. Then they consume the bread to gain power. They do the same thing with the wine turning it to blood.
2007-10-09 03:27:18 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
Sorcery I must say; that's why when the priest covers the goblet with this white cloth thingy bob. Then whispers abric a dabbra it changes.
2007-10-09 03:32:49 · answer #6 · answered by Drop short and duck 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
I'm not smart enough to quote it, but technically the priest doesn't do that, God does.
Its like "Through Him, in Him, With Him... in (unison?) with the Holy Spirit" then we sing "Christ has died, Christ has risen Christ will come again" and he talkes then too
2007-10-09 03:25:48 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 3⤋
He speaks the words of Christ over the Bread and Wine.
It is because of the authority vested in him through 2000 years of apostolic sucession that he is able to do this. When protestants broke away from the Church, they lost that gift.
Read this if you REALLY want information:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05573a.htm#3
http://www.catholic.com/library/Christ_in_the_Eucharist.asp
EDIT: It is not symbolic. That is a protestent heresy invented in the 16th century. The FIRST Christians believed in Transubstatiation (although they did not use that word).
And Catholics make up the vast majority of Christians in the world (1.3 billion) so don't try to say what "Christians" believe.
2007-10-09 03:26:45 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 5⤋
Isn't that entire ritual kind of sick? I know I'll get a violation for this, but I don't care. Eating someone's flesh & drinking their blood sounds really sick to me. ......I'll find it in a few minutes in that book if no one else does first.
2007-10-09 03:27:11 · answer #9 · answered by shermynewstart 7 · 6⤊ 3⤋
He does not. We are not partaking of Christ's actual flesh and blood when we commemerate the Lord's Supper.
It is a symbol of our allegience to Christ and God for what Christ did.
2007-10-09 03:25:16 · answer #10 · answered by Carol D 5 · 2⤊ 6⤋