Can anyone tell me of an organisation or country that has murdered more people than the christian church.?

Answer 1

I always wonder what people get out of coming to a religion board and asking questions that are obviously designed to only make other people, especially Christians, mad, but it also has the effect of making the asker look absolutely stupid.

Perhaps you can tell me since you have entered that zone..........

Answer 2

I have never seen a church jump out of a bush and murder anyone!

Seriously, yes, I have no tolerance for religion, and have no time for those that believe there is any substance to it, no, not yet, don't jump out of that pram too early.

Although peolpe have fought and continue to fight over religious views, it is not the religion itself that does the murdering.

The urge to kill someone has not got religious, social or national boundaries, it is an individual choice apart from during the time of war.

During war-time one could consider that the normal situation has broken down, hence the fighting, so the normal definition of murder has changed, no soldier is commiting murder if he kills the enemy during hostilities, yet if he takes an enemy prisoners if he then chooses to kill them the definition could be changed.

So we look at so called Holy Wars, the Crusades, it is doubtful that anywhere near the numbers were killed at that time simply because population number would have been considerabley lower in the 12/13th Centuries than were killed by the Nazis in WWII.

Without checking, I believe that the numbers killed during WWI, were higher than the numbers in WWII, even taking into account those killed by the Nazi gas chambers.

If those that presumption is wrong I apologise. I can understand fully the sensitivities around the Holocaust.

It could be argued that both of these wars pitted Christians against Christians.

No, inept politicians have killed more people than anything else, if the issues at the end of WWI had been properly managed their would have been no WWII, if the issues that came out of World War II had been properly managed, then the Balkans conflicts may not have taken place.

Religion canm be condemned on a number of grounds, Christianity like all religions has its faults, but not wholesale slaughter on that scale.

Answer 3

That is slander! The Pope does not tell us to go forth and murder and nor does the Bible !! That is like accusing all Muslims - WRONG!! Some murderous people are Christians but some are Jewish, Muslims,Hindu etc. You can't just accuse a whole religious group of being murderers !!!

Answer 4

Religious fanatics have done things that are impossible to defend, and some of them, mostly in the Muslim world, are still performing horrors in the name of their creed. But if religion sometimes disposes people to self-righteousness and absolutism, it also provides a moral code that condemns the slaughter of innocents. In particular, the moral teachings of Jesus provide no support for - indeed they stand as a stern rebuke to - the historical injustices perpetrated in the name of Christianity.

But even so, they are minuscule compared with the death tolls produced by the atheist despotisms of the 20th century. In the name of creating their version of a religion-free utopia, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong produced the kind of mass slaughter that no Inquisitor could possibly match. Collectively these atheist tyrants murdered more than 100 million people.

Answer 5

Christian America humbly apologizes for failing to do away with Hugo Chavez at the request of Pat Robertson, but otherwise we do have a neat record... We don''t call it murder, BTW...

Answer 6

You are joking of course.
The Nazis
The Soviet Communist Revolutionaries and their children who ran the Gulags
Pol Pot
The Chinese Communists
Organizations and countries do not murder people - people murder people and most with a burning zeal to promote their ideas


Figures and Tables
Forward (by Irving Louis Horowitz)
Preface
Acknowledgments
1. 169,202,000 Murdered: Summary and Conclusions [20th Century Democide]


I BACKGROUND
2. The New Concept of Democide [Definition of Democide]
3. Over 133,147,000 Murdered: Pre-Twentieth Century Democide

II 128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS
4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime

III 19,178,000 VICTIMS: THE LESSER MEGA-MURDERERS
8. 5,964,000 Murdered: Japan's Savage Military
9. 2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
10. 1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey's Genocidal Purges
11. 1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
12. 1,585,000 Murdered: Poland's Ethnic Cleansing
13. 1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State
14. 1,072,000 Murdered: Tito's Slaughterhouse

IV 4,145,000 VICTIMS: SUSPECTED MEGAMURDERERS
15. 1,663,000 Murdered? Orwellian North Korea
16. 1,417,000 Murdered? Barbarous Mexico
17. 1,066,000 Murdered? Feudal Russia

For Dear Yoda
Hitler was an occultist influenced by Blavatsky - I wrote a paper on it!\
as for being a Christian he was no more a Christian than he was a Socialist despite NSDAP being his platform -
By their fruits ye shall know them -
The warnings Christ gave to the so called religious people of the day ought to convince you that calling oneself something is no guarantee you are that which you call yourself -

Answer 7

I am not sure of the red handed death toll attributable to the Christian Church, obviously the Inquisitions could be tallied to Pope Innocent, but the crusades were fought by kings and sheiks, not imams, mullahs and priests....

Zealots,be they religious nuts or political fanatics, have always been willing to kill en masse to gain and maintain power, I make no distinction between religions and those who would use religion to perpetuate heir state power base..

Answer 8

I like when people ask questions like this because I have the chance to invite them to read the New Testament and realize by their own that all the bad things that so called 'christians' have done are COMPLETELY out of the Bible teachings.. By the way, the word Christian means 'one like Christ', so by logic not all Christians are true Christians..

Answer 9

Yes, and their own countrymen in peacetime, no less!

Communist Soviets - 20 million Soviets.
Communist China - 30 million Chinese.

That is a potential of godless leadership.

Answer 10

short answer is no-saying the church didnt do it is a case of figures dont lie but liars do figure-is the church responsible for the spread of disease by a missionary-i think it comes down to personal responsibility but the numbers of killings and death that has happened by people who profess to be christian is unmatched by any other grouping that you can name-----enjoy the night