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It began hundreds of years ago, when the Church changed the Bible. . .

The "New Testament": Pagan revenge

Between G-d's own miracles and the Jewish teaching of His Word, the pagan priest/pastorhoods of Egypt, Greece, and Rome were steadily losing their power over the gentile populations. They decided to fight back by creating a new religion, one that would claim to be the fulfillment of the Hebrew "Old Testament," yet would bring back the pagan lies in a new disguise.

Thus the "New Testament" was written, in Greek rather than Hebrew, and attached to the original Hebrew scriptures to try to change their meaning back toward paganism.

The "New Testament" tried to change G-d from One, as in the Hebrew scriptures, into a "trinity" as in Egyptian cults or the eastern religions of Hinduism and Buddhism. It described Jesus as G-d in a human body, like the pagans always described Pharoah and other wicked kings. It declared G-d's Law to be a "curse" that no one can truly obey, announced that there must be a "mediator" between G-d and man, and pretended that salvation could now be achieved outside the Law.

To blind the gentile nations, the "New Testament" also warned people not to learn from the Jews, declaring that Israel no longer possessed the true, complete Word of G-d.

In the Bible, the book of Daniel warned of an evil power--a false religion--that would believe in the true "G-d of fortresses... plus a god its fathers did not know." This religion would "speak bizarre words about the Most High, wear out the holy ones (the Jews), and plan to change the festivals and the religious Law."7 The Christian Church has indeed replaced Passover with Easter (the pagan holiday of Astarte and Ishtar) and Hanukah with Christmas (the pagan winter holiday).


http://www.noahide.com/paganism.htm


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Jewish Ruling concerning Christianity :

"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are IDOL worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198)


http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm

2007-10-08 18:29:30 · 14 answers · asked by kloneme 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

14 answers

Who cares about your cut-and-paste logisto-philosophisin'! This just in: your posts are unoriginal and lame! Go to sleep already, if you're just gonna play into tired jokes like this one!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ao4Ertk9AcB24aslkaJ3nqPd7BR.;_ylv=3?qid=20071008222350AAgZg8l

2007-10-08 18:39:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

The Jewish people had at one time dealt in Idolatry and that they stopped that as quickly as they back from Babylonian Exile. Jews have by no potential commonplace the Trinity doctrine, and rightly so. The Trinity replaced into created 3 hundred years after The dying of Jesus. how are you able to Blame the Jewish people for not seeing via this Nonsense. yet another element this Questioner is making an attempt to sell the Islamic faith, they'd not believe in a Trinity, yet their Founder is only as responsible with beheading seven-hundred Jewish adult men in his early Years.

2016-10-06 08:47:06 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Yeah, that didn't really look like a question. But I will add that there is some machlokes (disagreement) amongst the poskim (Jewish legal authorities) as to where Christianity stands.

All agree that it is not pure monotheism. But where some would classify it as straight polytheistic idolatry, some consider this practice of shituf (lit. "patnership," ascribing a "helper" to G-d) as being erroneous, but still a step up from traditional paganism, and acceptable for gentiles as leading from avodah zarah (idolatrous worship) to true monotheism, but of course forbidden to Jews, who, from our experience at Sinai, should know better. Those who hold by the latter opinion would probably consider Christianity valid vis-a-vis the Noachide Laws. It is more widely agreed that Islam is valid as a Noachide religion. Of course, a true Ben Noach who doesn't compromise on the existence of one and only one G-d, and who keeps the covenant G-d established with Noah, is considered to be in a better spiritual position.

I hope this helps further clarify the issue.

2007-10-11 18:54:04 · answer #3 · answered by Daniel 5 · 0 0

Although I don't see a question I will give a statement.

I believe the Shema, Deuteronomy D'VARIM 6:4 Hear, Yisra'el: the LORD is our God; the LORD is one: שׁמע ישׂראל אדני אלהינו אדני אחד׃

I also believe YA'AKOV 2:19 Jamess 2:19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe--and shudder!
σὺ πιστεύεις ὅτι ὁ Θεός εἷς ἐστι· καλῶς ποιεῖς· καὶ τὰ δαιμόνια πιστεύουσι καὶ φρίσσουσι.

There is only one God. All Christians aren't polytheistic. those who represent Christianity in hypocrisy , hate , and greed, have brought a reproach against the Truth of the Messiah that only He Himself can wipe away. Woe to those persons on the Day of the Lord.

2007-10-08 18:43:30 · answer #4 · answered by ? 5 · 0 0

Who is Isaiah 53 speaking about?
Who is Isaiah 9:6-7 speaking about? How could God be born...? Isn't this describing God in a human body...?

Is it true that t Isaiah 53 isn't read in the temples anymore? Why not?

Is it perhaps possible that because you reject Jesus as the Messiah that you arent' ready to accept what he said about himself ?

You're wrong about the "church" changing the Bible. That theory has already been disproven by scholars (since you didn't list your source for "Jewish scholars," I guess you won't require me to list mine) and the agreement of the documents themselves. It is true that a group of men, guided by the Holy Spirit, and basing their decisions upon what they already were practicing and believing to be true, chose which books to reject and which ones to keep.

But if you reject the Messiah, you don't believe in the Holy Spirit...so I suppose I could understand your confusion about the validity of that process. But for those who do believe in the Holy Spirit, that discernment process is reliable.

"Easter" has its roots in Passover, since the night before his arrest Jesus was sharing the passover meal. The pagan trappings of Easter eggs could disappear, and we would still be celebrating in Christ's death and resurrection - Easter. But we haven't "replaced" Passover - it is still celebrated around the world by Jews and also in many Christian churches during Holy week.

It is a fact that the early church replaced pagan holidays with feasts particular to its own beliefs. Doesn't matter. What matters is, Jesus was born, and that is what we Christians celebrate. Jesus suffered, died, was buried and rose again. That's what we Christians celebrate.

Also, history just does not back you up. What you said is not even logical. Why would Rome, if it was falling, want to create a religion that challenged itself as the authority? At the time of Christ, the Roman government was the strongest in the world.

There are things mentioned in the "Old Testament" that also have a pagan ring to them -- does that mean that Judaism is also a false religion, by your own reasoning? What about human sacrifice, animal sacrifice...?

Shalom!

2007-10-08 18:55:26 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

What on earth would you expect! READ! DET 6:4! Several times.,,, Have you read the Book of HEBREWS?,,,,,,, SEE, I believe in the Father,Son, & Holy Spirit! But NOT the Nicean creed EITHER! Just who says one MUST believe in a trinity anyway? and they can't even explain it and make any sense? Jn 17 truely explains "ONE" also. There is so much more,,,,,,,,

2007-10-08 18:50:30 · answer #6 · answered by hamoh10 5 · 1 0

I am a father, a husband and a son.
Does that make me three people?

2015-12-13 07:31:09 · answer #7 · answered by Alan H 7 · 0 0

Completely absurd. Have you checked out the Hebrew grammatic plurality of "eloah" yet?

2007-10-08 18:38:29 · answer #8 · answered by w2 6 · 2 2

In Genesis 1:26 God said, "Let Us make man in Our image." Then in Genesis 1:27 Moses records "And Elohim created man in His image, in the image of Elohim He created him; male and female He created them," thus making it plain that the Us in verse 26 is clearly referring to God, not to angels as some people speculate. God makes plain in verse 26 that He is the Three in One.

Moses wrote in Genesis 11:5, "And Yehovah came down to see the city," using the singular noun. Yet in verse 7 is used the plural noun which is Yehovah again indicating the plurality of His nature when He said, "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech."

2007-10-08 18:35:52 · answer #9 · answered by mgs4Real 3 · 3 4

it IS idolatry, but the real kicker is this whole trinity thing is not even mentioned in the bible. oh and btw it's only called trinity, they actually only call jesus ''god''.

2007-10-08 19:23:06 · answer #10 · answered by B 3 · 0 2

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