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I have a Shih Tzu and a Pomeranian that are just the cutest! I plan to breed them. But, their AKC registration is restricted. I know since they are Designer Hybrids, I couldn't register their puppies with any legitimate registry, but there won't be a problem with the breeding, right?

I mean after all, my dogs are SPOILED! And, after all, when two dogs of different breeds are bred, it is definitely a plus for the offspring!

Don't you think that everyone deserves to buy a good puppy at a reasonable price?

2007-10-08 15:13:52 · 39 answers · asked by Holly Mills 1 in Pets Dogs

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OMG finally someone who thinks the way I do! I believe totally that you should be able to get a good pet at a good price.

It doesn't matter if the AKC registration is restricted. You just make sure you don't let the breeder of your dogs find out. They will sue you if they find out you bred the dogs. Sell the dogs online they will be less likely to find out.
They're your dogs after all right? You bought them, why can't you do whatever you please. Who cares what the breeder did before you, you got the dogs now.

You go girl!

2007-10-08 15:21:03 · answer #1 · answered by DawgHouse 3 · 2 41

Congratulations on buying your dogs from REGISTERED BREEDERS. No doubt you thought that it was important to have your dogs coming from somewhere reputable and with all the genetic testing done to secure their health. Why do you then think it is ok to sell puppies without papers or genetic testing? There is no logic. More often than not purebred, registered dogs are sold at a cheaper price than "designer mutts". Even petshops sell puppies more expensively than registered breeders who are usually in it for the love and betterment of the breed they are involved in. How about you contact the breeders of your dogs and see if they want their limited register pets cross bred with something else!!
Most registered breeders offer to take back puppies or dogs they have bred if the new owners can't keep them anymore - are you set up to take 7 or 8 dogs back because the owners don't want them? Do you want to see them in shelters waiting to be put down like all the other abandonded mutts out there? Do you have the thousands of dollars required for emergency caesarians, vet checks, special diets and vaccinations of your new "reasonably priced" mutt puppies? What do you even think reasonably priced is?? Can you take the time off work to care for a litter of puppies? What will you do when you have 6 or so 5 week old poo machines running around your house? That's just a few questions which hopefully make you realise NO is the best solution.

2007-10-08 16:49:41 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

Are you prepared to fork out thousands of $$ if something goes wrong? Ring your vet and ask for a quote on a 2am public holiday C-section.

Google dog resues and pounds and have a look at all the cute fluffy little dogs locked up in cages because Backyard Breeders decided they should breed their dogs - without any regards to the health testing that should be carried out.

And to the person excited about puppies for Xmas - call the pund and ask how many dogs are dumped in January & Feburary because people don't think about the cost of food, vet fees, training and equipment - or even that the person may not want a dog anyway.

Sorry if I have offended anyone, but these dogs were passed over by a professional REGISTERED Breeder for a reason and there is no reason in the world that could be good enough for Joe Blow off the street to start breeding even more mongrels!

2007-10-08 16:05:24 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 7 0

Pet quality dogs should not be bred, period. Even if an AKC registered dog is bred to another of the SAME breed that is also AKC registered. The reason your dogs were sold on limited registrations is because they are NOT breeding stock quality. AKC registrations, while one of the the only U.S. registrations worth anything ,are still not worth much more than the paper they are printed on. The QUALITY of the dogs is much more important, and you were already informed that your dogs are qualified only as pets, not breeders.

It's ridiculous to think that breeding two inferior dogs will produce a superior result...I don't know where you got this idea, but you should NOT trust the person who gave you this information.

When you breed "pet quality" dogs the puppies are often just as "defective" as the parents...health problems are more common (luxating patellas, hip problems, allergies, etc.) and undesirable traits are passed on. Good puppies are reasonably priced even at $2000, your dogs are VERY unlikely to produce good puppies, in fact, they're unlikely to even produce puppies that are GOOD ENOUGH. The breeder knew what they were doing when they sold these dogs on limited registrations, please talk to the breeders of your dogs for information on why your dogs are NOT qualified to be bred.

2007-10-08 16:01:04 · answer #4 · answered by Leigh 7 · 8 1

If the breeder put your dogs on limited register ("restricted AKC papers") they did it for a reason - because your dogs are not breeding quality.

There are many problems that you could have breeding your dogs, including issues with the *****'s pregnancy, the ***** needing an emergency c-section which can cost more than $1000, puppies that are born still born, puppies that are born deformed, fading puppy syndrome, health problems that arise with the pups because YOU don't know anything about dog breeding or genetics.

When two dogs of different breeds are bred, it is most certainly NOT a plus for the offspring. Majority of the time, the dogs bred from have not been health tested (and no, this does not been vet checked!!!) for breed specific health problems, the difference in size and structure can mean puppies have joint, hip and elbow problems, puppies characteristics and temperment are almost always impossible to predict because it can be any combination of its parents, grandparents or any other dog in its genetic history.

There are puppies at reasonable prices. They are in the local pound, bred by people like yourself. I also have two papered pedigree purebred dogs that were what I consider a reasonable price for well bred, health tested and structurally sound dogs. Please don't breed your dogs. You are just another uneducated and naive backyard breeder who will be adding more unwanted dogs to rescue.

2007-10-08 15:40:54 · answer #5 · answered by husky87 2 · 11 0

Do you know what you get when you cross a shih tzu and a pom? A mutt. Do you know how many mutts die each year in shelters? Thousands.

Doesn't matter that your dogs are spoiled. Mine are too, so are thousands of others, who belong to responsible pet owners who care more about the well being of the pets they could be creating than their own pocketbook.

Yes, everyone deserves to buy a good puppy at a reasonable price, but what assurances do you have that these pups won't be the worst of the medical issues of each breed? None. You are not an educated breeder with years of experience at selecting the right dogs for the correct coupling. You are not a vet who has carefully selected and tested each of your dogs for health issues and problems. You are not even an upstanding individual if you will put your own personal gain over the welfare of future animals that might created by this union. Restricted contract aside, this should not even cross your mind because it is ethically wrong. And, what if you lose your dog during the pregancy? For what, a few dollars in your pocket.

Shame on you!

2007-10-08 15:33:10 · answer #6 · answered by O2BTall 2 · 11 1

Are you trying to justify creating mongrels? They are on restricted registration for the reason that breeding them would not improve the breed. They may have structural problems that could be transmitted to their offspring.

I am glad that you think your dogs are cute and spoiled. But despite hybrid vigor, you have no idea the genetics the puppies may receive from the parents. Cute parents is no guarantee what the puppies would turn out looking like. If you do breed your pets, are you willing to make sure the dam receives vet check-ups. Pom bitches can have difficulties whelping due to their small size. If the Shih Tzu is the female, are you willing to do the grooming necessary to enable her puppies to nurse easily? Are you willing to pay a vet to remove the dewclaws on the puppies? Give first booster shots? Screen prospective owners of the puppies to ensure a good home? Be willing to take back any dog you breed if the placement doesn't work out? I think you need to rethink your reasoning. There are a lot of mixed breed dogs in the pound or animal shelters awaiting euthanasia. The last four words in your question tells it all.."at a reasonable price."

2007-10-08 15:32:42 · answer #7 · answered by pughatton 3 · 11 0

UGGH NO! What are you talking about when you say ,"And, after all, when two dogs of different breeds are bred, it is definatly a plus for the offspring!"??????? That doesn't make any sense what so ever. If you breed a Shih Tzu with a congenital illness to a Pomeranian, you think the offspring will be better off? You have no common sense. If your dogs are your pets then you shouldn't breed them. The female could die and then your precious "pet" will be dead. There are millions of dogs in shelters. We don't need you or anybody else breeding junky mixed breeds for people to buy b/c they are "hybrids", a glorified mutt. Just keep them as pets and don't be a money grubbing BYB!

2007-10-08 16:26:46 · answer #8 · answered by Alexis R 4 · 5 1

YEAH !! for your breeder!!! She deserves a cookie for sending your puppy home on a Limited Registration!! The Silver / Gold packages are AKC marketing tools; pick whichever one you want and can afford. Neither effect your dog's registration. But you definitly should register your dog! AKC registration is important to the Breeder, to the Breed and to the entire sport. AND to you!!! Right now, you may think your puppy is "just a pet"== but someday in the future you may want to compete in performance events! If you don't register your dog now, when he is young, you may lose the application- and the cost of registering is much higher later on! Congratulations on choosing a responsible breeder for your new puppy- and Good Luck!!!

2016-04-07 22:29:12 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

How about you ring the breeders of your AKC registered dogs and see how they feel about your breeding plans??
Pretty sure they will be rather annoyed at you. When you purchased these animals you would have agreed to desex them at 6months as it is standard when purchasing a pet quality animal.
You should be ashamed of yourself. YOU add to the animals in the pounds. YOU add to the poor animals in the pet shops.
YOU are responsible for this.
You have no idea what goes into breeding and are willing to risk the health of your pets to make some cash?
Do you realise that an emergency c section can cost up to $2000.00? Do you realise that your female whilst in whelp must be fed puppy food for the nutrients and vitamins? Do you have a whelping box? Are you prepared to hand feed these puppies if your female does not take to them or dies in birth or tries to killthe pups? Are you prepared to vaccinated and microchip these pups? It is law that they be microchipped and vaccinated BEFORE they go to new homes, homes which they are not allowed to go to BEFORE they are 8weeks old. Are you prepared to look after them until then?

Think long and hard and ring your breeders, YOU are the reason so many breeders are desexing their pups BEFORE they leave at 8 weeks.

2007-10-08 20:12:25 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 5 0

Your dog may be cute but that is no reason to breed it! Are you ready to pay for an emergency C-section when things go wrong? Are you ready to lose your dog when this happens? Have your pets spayed and neutered. Enjoy your dog for the pet it is. If you have no idea what happens to these poorly bred mix breeds, go visit your local shelter on a day when they are putting them to sleep, which is daily. Why would you want to do this? Pets are being killed by the millions because of the lack of good homes. After all you said your dog was "pet quality" no breeding quality. The ONLY reason to breed a dog is to improve the breed, yours is a mixed breed... nothing to improve on!

2007-10-08 15:47:21 · answer #11 · answered by Dee M 4 · 7 0

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