Why Do Catholics???

Question

Why do Catholics CLAIM that Peter was the first Pope. Any Historian will telll you the Peter NEVER went to Rome.
On top of this fact, if you took the time to open your Bibles, you would see the truth, that Peter NEVER had a follower of Non-Jews (Gentiles) Only Jewish followers.

Another one, why does the Catholic Church make a claim they chose what books go into the Bible. Doesn't God get the credit for that? And why after they make such a big deal about putting together these books, they do not even adhear to them?

How many think that Catholics make an idol of their religion? Why don't they talk about God's word, and the Bible instead of being so defensive of their religion?

Answer 1

Any historian? I thought your one and only source was Scripture. And yes, the Bible doesn't say "Peter went to Rome". It also doesn't say he didn't. Nor does it say where many of the Apostles went; does that mean they went nowhere? There are, in fact, quite a few early church writings that place Peter in Rome.

Presumably, the canon of Scripture was put together under divine guidance -- just as the books of Scripture were divinely inspired. Kindly tell us your theory as to how this occurred if not through the hands of the Christians who were guided by the Holy Spirit to define the canon.

As far as taking the time to open my Bibles (I have several translations) is concerned, I read and study Scripture on a daily basis and have done so for 30 years. Want to talk Bible? Pick a single topic, not this shotgun anti-Catholic rant approach, and many of us will be more than happy to respectfully debate it with you. But I probably should warn you that I began my Bible studies as a Baptist fundamentalist.

Answer 2

1) can you please offer a link to that historical data. whether gentile or jew - it doesn't matter once they accept Christ

2) God inspired those who wrote the books - we've never claimed otherwise. Catholicism was around for 1500 years prior to the protestants - this is probably where they "get that". we have the Bible approved by the Universal Christian Church since the year 380. During the Protestant reformation several books were taken out of the Bible in the late 1400s. Martin Luther even took the Book of James and Revelation out of the Bible as well, before they were restored. The Catholic Bible has been the most consistent of all translations for more than 1600 years.

3) idol of religion -- huh?! apparently you've never been to a Catholic mass. the majority of the community worship is from Scriptures, the readings are from the various books and the Gospel is from one of the 4 gospels.

why don't others stop trying to spread untruths and learn their own religion --


2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Answer 3

1) Jesus told Peter (I don't have it verbatim): "Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church." That, for Catholics, was the establishment of the first Pope. And his followers were followers of Jesus' teachings.

2) Please supply a link to where it says Catholics say they chose which books would be in the Bible. There is general agreement between most Christians on what is in the Bible and what is not.

3) I have no idea what you're talking about. If you follow a religion, how are you making an idol of it? You're really clutching at straws here, aren't you?

Answer 4

Huh? The Gospels were written after the death of Jesus, and only scribes usually had access to the Torah. Christians would have been overwhelmed if Jesus had told them to compile a list of books that haven't even been written. Peter was the rock upon which Jesus built Christianity according to the Bible, and why does it matter that the first pope had no Gentile followers (which is incorrect because it was made clear that Gentiles would be accepted into the Christian Church. As to why we are always defending our faith? It's because people are constantly attacking it. In addition, there are millions of priests and catechists teaching and talking about Catholicism every day.

Answer 5

Well, after all your screaming, you should know that Jesus Himself named Peter as His Pope. The historians that I know say that Peter did go to Rome.

Regarding what you say that Catholics do not adhere to the books, that's exactly what I have seen among non Catholics. They use the Bible like a convenience store. They take what they like and leave what they don't like. That makes no sense.
For your personal information, in the Mass, the priest does read a passage of the Bible and makes an explication about it.
Where do you get your information, buster ? From fidel kastro ?

Answer 6

Read your Bible again. Peter was in Rome. Youi have also ignored this hard evidence.

There are some who have claimed that Peter was never in Rome and therefore never was the Bishop of Rome. This claim has pretty much died out in the past 30 years as archaeological excavations directly under the high altar of St. Peter's Basilica have unearthed a tomb which matches the description of the one in which Peter was reported to have been buried, complete with inscriptions referring to Peter. In the summer of 1968 Pope Paul announced that the skeletal remains of Saint Peter had been found and satisfactorily identified.

Please read:
Walsh, John Evangelist, The Bones of Saint Peter, Fount Paperbacks, Bungay, Suffolk, Great Britain, 1984

Answer 7

Ah, but who did God CHOOSE to put the Bible together? The Catholic Church!

If you aren't afraid of the TRUTH- Check out this website:
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/

Answer 8

My answer doesn't really address the issue of Peter being the first Pope, however I think that is complete malarkey. Just as is most of what Catholics believe and will defend, even when the truth is right there in front of them. I wanted you to see this link, if you haven't already, and see just how deep-rooted the lies and deception go back in history. You know, their whole basis for always saying and thinking that they have the Christian religion and it's history cornered. http://www.proclaimtheword.org/Constantine-changed.html

Answer 9

John 21:15-17 states:

When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."

He then said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."

He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep.

Matthew 16:17-19 states:

Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.

Whether Peter ever went to Rome has no bearing on whether Jesus Christ put him in charge of the new Church.

The Pope is the senior pastor of 1.1 billion Catholics, the direct successor of Simon Peter.

The Pope’s main roles include teaching, sanctifying, and governing.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 880-882: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p4.htm#880

With love in Christ.

Answer 10

You say we make an idol of our religion by being defensive, and yet you spend so much time attacking it? Who's wrong here?