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does this person look like some one who takes care of there birds?http://www.jmparrotplace.com/Default.htm because i am thinking about getting a cockatoo*moluccan* or a macaw from them and can you give me some info on what size cage they need because on person on here said they needed a very small cage but i DO not that is wrong and i was wondering could i give it the biggest cage that i have seen? or should i get it a med. size cage?

2007-10-08 08:20:48 · 10 answers · asked by i♥birds 1 in Pets Birds

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They do look like a very good breeder...
The thing is there is a big difference between getting a Cockatoo and Macaw...
the cockatoos are like having a 2 year old for ever...it is a very social bird, and demands alot of attention...You really do need to read up on them...
For a bird of this size you really should get as large a cage as you can afford...remember the bird needs to stretch its wings, and depending on the species,
that may mean a very big cage...
Good luck!!

2007-10-08 08:31:29 · answer #1 · answered by Kerilyn 7 · 0 0

Let's start from the beginning: Do you have birds now? What other kind of animals do you have?
Cockatoos and Macaws are 2 completely different species of birds, but they're both big. Do you have room for a ginormous cage? I mean a REALLY big cage?
These guys need a cage that could potentially cost you a thousand dollars, more if you invest in a stainless steel model.
Take a look:
http://www.macawsonly.com/cages.html

Have you done any research?
This is an enormous and very serious undertaking. I mean massive. This is going to be "the bird that ate your life". (TBTAYL)
These are potentially loud, (and I mean loud!) birds. It's the way they were built to behave.
Are you ready for a huge amount of homework?
Learning about Training, nutrition, care, etc.?
How do you feel about not going anywhere for a while so you can get to know and bond with your new guy?
I'm sure the person who said that you needed a small cage thought you meant "Cockatiel", not "Cockatoo" and there is a huge difference in cage size for these 2 species.
If you want to get a bird I think that's great. I'd rather see you adopt one that needs a home, however.
But the reason there are so many birds that need homes is because people who get birds have no idea what they are doing, make an impulse purchase and then wammo! They end up with this beautiful creature that they have no idea what to do with or how to train. And that's when they end up in a shelter. And I don't like that.
Do you understand that you could potentially have this bird for the rest of your life?
Birds just don't show up at yor door knowing how to behave in your home. You have to teach them. And if you know how to train them, then it works out beautifully.
I love my birds and couldn't imagine my life without them. But I've also been taking classes which has cost me thousands of dollars and reading and studying which has cost me thousands of hours.
Look, I know you don't want to hear this, but please think about this long and hard before you do it.
The breeders look like they have a nice website. Have you been there? Have you seen their facilities? Is it clean? Do they keep good breeding records? Can you ask for more testimonials?
This is just the tip of the iceberg, and there is a lot to do before you bring your bird home.
Good luck and don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.

2007-10-08 16:29:21 · answer #2 · answered by Phoenix 4 · 0 0

They look put together , but I wouldn't ship. You're better off driving there, and then pickign the bird off. Moluccan need at least 6 hours a day or more, probably more outside the cage andeven still need an ENORMOUS cage. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=5059+10346+5064+16504&pcatid=16504 My personal favorite is this cage. It'ssooo roomy and provide larger parrotslike macaws adn cockatoos with a lot fo room to spread their wings and gives macaws room for their tails. You could get away with a smaller cage, but the bigger the better. Get the BIGGEST and NICEST cage you can afford.
Make sure you know what to expect from a macaw and cockatoo.

2007-10-08 18:00:28 · answer #3 · answered by conure_chick 5 · 0 0

In my opinion, the place you get it from doesn't matter as much as the age of the bird. Even if the place is a bit shady (which I'm not sure this one is), you can tell a healthy bird from one which is seriously ill and if the bird is young enough you can remove any bad behavior it may have learned. When training a bird, its much easier for it to become connected to a person when it is younger. Also, it is best to go with as large of a cage as the space you allow for it can handle. The most important rule about cage sizes is that the bird has to at least be able to stretch out its wings. With a bird as intelligent as the one you are getting, don't cut down on its living room! Hope this helped!

2007-10-08 15:39:54 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It never ceases to amaze me, some of the answers given on here.

First of all, if you are a first time bird owner... please consider getting something smaller and definitely not a cockatoo. The bigger the bird, the more complex they are to care for. And they ALL are complex to care for. They are much more intelligent than dogs and cats and need much more stimulation. If not, you'll get ALL kinds of behavior issues. I also recommend you do a good 3 - 6 months of research before getting ANY bird. I did 5 months and quickly realized when I got my first bird, a Cherry Headed Conure that there was much more to it than I thought. But thankfully, I had an idea of what I was getting into before hand and was able to cope with the things I did NOT know. I now am the proud parront to seven wonderful birds... everything from Lovebirds, Conures, an Amazon, a mini Macaw and soon to an African Grey.

All birds have an intelligence that is equivalent to a 3 - 5 year old child (depending on the species) and an emotional intelligence of that of a 4 - 7 year old child. They will remain that way for their entire lives as they do not mature beyond that at all. Having said that, some of these birds become very hormonal from spring to fall which can complicate things even more. Male Amazons and Cockatoos are particular honory during mating season and can become quite a handful, more so than in the off season. All birds can become hormonal. Keep all of this in mind when selecting your bird and even in deciding if keeping a bird is right for you. You have to keep them happy, well fed and entertained for the duration of their life, which can be anywhere from 20 - 100 years, depending on their species. Macaws and Cockatoos can live to be 100 years old.

Its much more involved than 90% of the population that get birds realize, hence why so many are currently sitting in rescues or sanctuaries looking for forever homes. Sometimes, such as in my case, an owner educates themselves before buying or adopting a bird and despite it becoming much more than I had anticipated, it has changed my life for the better. They have helped me recognize my purpose in life, besides raising and loving my human child, of course.

As far as where you get your bird from... you can get a GREAT bird from a rescue group as well. And sometimes this is the better choice because you can go and visit the birds and sort of let your potential bird choose you. There's no guarentee that a baby bird you purchase from a breeder will grow to love you and that could lead to disappointment down the road. This way, you can go visit several birds, do your research and find out which bird can't resist YOU and decides that you must be his/her new parront.

If you decide buying from a breeder is a better choice for you, then do your homework. As around on bird boards if anyone has experience with a specific breeder. In fact, I will be posting a link to the best bird board on the net below... I'll bet you someone on there has had some experience with this specific breeder, or does know something about them.

As far as a cage... the bigger the better. Macaws and Cockatoos require HUGE cages... Macaws have tails that are up to 2-3 feet in length and your birds tail should not be touching any part of the cage when it perches. Cockatoos are extremely active, often dancing around, swinging around it's cage like a monkey and will need tons of room to play. Your bird, no matter the species, should have a enough room to spread it's wings fully, and then some (2 - 3 times the length of it's wingspan). There should also be room for PLENTY of different size perches and size appropriate toys to place inside the cage. :-)

You should provide your bird with as big of a cage you can affort. Just be sure that if no matter what species you go with, the cages bar spacing be appropriate for the bird. You can easily put a conure in a cage appropriate for an amazon, but your bird could get injured or escape because the space between the bars is too large.

Becareful too that you don't buy cheap knockoff cages... recent studies (and unfortunately loss of birds at a sanctuary) has found that a LOT of cages made in China contain high levels of lead and zinc, which can kill your bird very quickly. Remember, you get what you pay for in a cage. Below are three great manufacturers of cages... and Kings cages points out on their website that all of their cages have been tested and are safe.

http://www.kingscages.com/
http://www.prevuepet.com/products.asp
http://www.avianadventures.com

If you need further help now or in the future... I urge you to visit http://www.theperch.net/discussion/index.php?referrerid=2601 (my very favorite bird board community). It's a bird only website with TONS of information about birds from very experienced knowledgeable bird owners. You can get any questions you ever have answered there or simply exchange stories with other members. There is a place you can store photos and videos to as well as a store you can buy supplies from. You can even get your own free website.

2007-10-08 17:02:58 · answer #5 · answered by ProudParronting 4 · 1 0

They look like thy know what their doing but please make sure you know what ur doing before u purchase one of these birds, they are great pets that deserve to be well cared for, they also grow to a rather large size (depending on the species) Buy the largest cage u can afford, they should be able to spread their wings in the cage and hop around and their tails should not be touching the bars of the cage.Please do ur reserch way before hand and ask around the pet shops for information, and they parrots u want can be loud at times so make sure its okay with ur family and neighbours .....they're not suitable for appartments. If you want, start out with a smaller parrot and work ur way up.
Good luck

2007-10-08 15:31:26 · answer #6 · answered by Jade 3 · 0 0

Any place can look good. It's really a gamble, anybody's guess.

Look at it from the bird's perspective and ask yourself if it's worth taking a risk to spend your time with a bird, whether the result is win or lose. Ask yourself if the bird will be better off with you, or at least no worse off.

Put yourself in his feathers, and try to think like him. Would he want to live with you, and what kind of cage would he want?

Last I heard parrots need a huge cage. Make sure you want to do it. Parrots can live as long as 50 years or more!
Their beaks are strong enough to snap twigs (think what he can do to your fingers), and if they get bored, they'll start pulling out their own feathers. They need a lot of time spent with them or they'll be lonely.

2007-10-08 15:29:31 · answer #7 · answered by Poet G 5 · 0 0

YOU freaking funny.. YOU should never get a macaw or anything big untill you know informatoin.. YOu dont just get one... YOU should look up months worth of information.. And you should start with a small bird like a budgie or a cockatiel.
Nothing big... THey cost so much money Alot of g's I have to say a lot of budgies i have about 16 budgies they are a huge handful and each one is a work load.. PLus i have about 67 other birds but i have about 36 diff kinds.
I think that you should wait a bit.. And get a kokatoo.

2007-10-08 17:54:54 · answer #8 · answered by your_pets_needs 1 · 1 1

Ok. First of all if you are thinking about getting a bird shipped to your house I wouldnt. Yes sure sirrie you can get a bird from him if he lives in your area but I would not get it shipped unless u want an aggressive sick bird in your home. And I would also get a large cage for it, also be preparred for cleaning a big cage sista! Peace!

2007-10-08 15:30:43 · answer #9 · answered by MermaidGirl76 3 · 0 0

Bigger the better

2007-10-08 15:28:31 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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