If my friend is gay and god made him does that mean god want him to be gay, as he made everyone and everything?
If god made everyone he must have made satan
If god is all knowing then he knows what you are going to do and what is going to happene, therefore you have no free will as god knows everything you will do, so you have no choice in life if god exists
As god knows everything that happened and going to happen you have no choice in any action you are going to do as it is already known
This means adam and eve had no choice if they will take the apple, as god alrady knew they would.
If god is real there is no free will as he already knows everything that would happen, if god is real he must have made satan and hell aswel, if hell is real that means that god is fine with its existance as he alows humans to be tortured, if he was all powerful he would be able to stop that.God should be able to make a rock no body not even himself can lift, but that contradicts itself...
2007-10-08
07:18:31
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so basicaly what i am saying, anyone who isnt dumb or a complete fool would know that god inst real, but since most of the population is dumb they believe in him YAY
2007-10-08
07:19:29 ·
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if god gives some peaple trials of fate he does not treat everyone equaly,and dont you think that is wrong?
2007-10-08
07:23:00 ·
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if god knows something before it hapened, there is no choice in it...
2007-10-08
07:25:47 ·
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do you think santa clause is real, cause you must do if you think god is real lmao.. is santa clause god?
2007-10-08
07:33:00 ·
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a bible is a book... made by fools/ christians.. so basicaly you are using a book made by a fool( a smart fool who is rich) to state a fact which is not proof, if the bible if the word of god, only god should be able to write it, and it can be misinterpreted + fools do it alot.
2007-10-08
07:36:09 ·
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i think you are applying logic to an illogical subject---wish you luck----enjoy the day---pretty good rant though
2007-10-08 07:22:54
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answered by lazaruslong138 6
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It's true, God is omniscient. However, He permits us the ability to decide when to execute our plans. Someone came up with a fine analogy by saying if a person were very close to the edge of a cliff, it's very possible that individual will fall. But the person still has the choice to turn around. Choice is a quality only present in living things. I know I'll be catching hell for this, but your friend can also make a choice. God does not punish gays. He punishes sin. He is well aware of what our tendencies are. To ignore God's statutes does not make them less relevant any more than ignoring God makes Him less existent. I find the necessity to distinguish between gay and homosexual. One is a tendency, while the other is a practice. God does not want anyone to perish. The lake is like a smelting container. It is there to break down every component to it's original form until the consciousness is expired. Asking for forgiveness shows God that you're aware of the sin and wanting to change. It also shows that God is patient for your decision.
2007-10-08 07:41:18
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answered by Sidereal Hand 5
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certainly!!! It replaced into some thing extra formal, yet I used to chat to Him however the reason and because I saved forward to my very very own ambition and desires, while He gave me avertisements I saved none and did my way going into further and further trubles! Into an end, interior a deep depresion, He saved my existence (!!!) the very 2d I left away of all my deep desires... There, empty heart, i replaced into crammed with God's gentle and Peace and Love - an entire New existence, a sparkling physique, a sparkling imaginative and prescient over the final and the destiny :) :) :) sure, he's my Saviour!!!
2016-10-06 07:53:04
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answered by ? 4
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Hmmm....I am an Athiest. I think your argument is horribly falsified. The christians that have answered below have made a great point that god (assuming he existed for the sake of argument) god could in fact know what decisions that you were to make in the future without having anything to do with the influence upon them. You could still have free will .God could still exist. Your friend could've been born with all of the same opportunities in life as yourself or I. He (he?) chose men.
If you were to have based your argument on a divine plan and included the "all knowing" bit. You could go somewhere with it.
Also, consider prayer in your thoughts; If prayer actually did something then what would the "divine plane" be good for? Kinda like spinning your wheels in the mud right? Add that on top of the "all knowing" theory and you have a vicious cycle of hypocracy(sp?).
That'll get you're wheels turning.
p.s. What do you suppose Jesus would do for Santa on his B-Day!!! :D
2007-10-09 16:38:36
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answered by dustonius 1
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You look around and see everything that is going wrong in the world, but the devil has poise man against GOD trying to get man to blame GOD for war, disease, famine, and poverty. but GOD hurts when he see's people suffer,the LORD says in jeremiah 29:11 " I know the plans I have for you declares the LORD, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, to give you a hope and a future." the bible also says " the devil prowls around like a lion seeking whom he may devour" GOD created your friend HE knew he would become gay but one thing GOD will "not" do.. interfere with human free will. He allows you to choose good or evil, GOD or the devil there is no in between, if you dont choose GOD you automatically chose the devil. GOD created the devil who has many names listed in the bible ( such as the destroyer, The dragon, ect" but his name is Lucifer Satan but being in a high position (a cherub which is the highest ranking of angels) wasn't enough he wanted to become GOD. GOD created hell for the devil and his angels hell was not intended for people but there are people who will not repent and will end up going there. My final conclusion is a man may say what he wants and do what he wants but in the end when you stand before GOD to be judge nothing can save you except the gift of GOD which is Jesus Christ.
2007-10-10 11:00:18
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answered by metalgear332001 3
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I'm not sure about your logic. Setting my beliefs aside; even if God can know everything, that doesn't mean there isn't free will. It only means that God knows everything, and that can include knowing what a person will do with free will.
The better argument would be to say that God needn't bother instructing Adam & Eve one way or another regarding forbidden fruit, as he already knows they will violate his law, and by setting the rules, God forced original sin to occur.
God or no God, I still question whether people have free will.
2007-10-08 07:28:17
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answered by Mickey Mouse Spears 7
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OK ok this is freging annyoing.
God is the everlasting immoratol soul that is the night sky AKA : (you person who doesnt belvie in scince.) GOD IS THE UNIVERSE. SPACE. THE BIRTH OF GOD IS THE BIG BANG. what you dint think that i bleve god is everywhere and will listen to your paryers. HECK NOO. he gave us techonlgy. he wants peace, he wants us to use it, he wants us to live, not to sacrifice, dosent care what your belfs in, he just wants us to be happy. So that means DONT BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF FOR GOD. if the genral said for a suprise attack and speciffly god said to go and attack there where
your chances are 0-0% and jimmy arleady got shot . THAT S WHAT HE DOESNT WANT TO SEE. adn god is at the top and with imganimation and scince he could do anyhting THAT MEANS LEAVE IRAQ ALONE!!!
2007-10-11 16:49:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Here is something I wanna contribute, gay is a word that means happy. No one has any choice to be born the way they are, besides who the hell is anyone to judge him or anyone.
Your friend is just 1 of zillions upon zillions of individuals born, he will contribute to society. God bless him. Be there for him, he is the way he was born to be.
2007-10-10 02:23:07
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answered by a bear hugs 2
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Look... You know it, I know it... But let's leave them have their strange beliefs.
To answer your question about what Christians believe: Yes God made Satan, he was an angel who rebelled. God makes everyone equal, but gives certain people more challenges, (I don't know why.)
They believe gay people choose to be gay. (That one makes me laugh)
They believe that God gives free will and he doesn't know what you are going to do. In other words there isn't any predestined life for you.
God gave Adam and Eve the apple as a test. They believe God likes to test people a lot. They believe he wants people to do something about starving and tortured people. So privileged people are tested too.
They think the question about the rock is silly. They always roll their eyes when people ask that. (I think it's because they don't know.)
2007-10-09 09:22:43
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answered by Laughing all the way 5
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God has created, is running, and will destroy the Universe. God is the Origin and Destination of the Universe. God was, is, will be everywhere, God was never Created and will never die / be destroyed. God is beyond Life and Death. All religions of world teach human way to get close to God. You give your Best, God will give thy Best. Ask God for help and forgive, God will help and forgive you. Pray; Worship and Thank God for everything. Remember wherever there is Happiness in Life, there will be Sorrow. To get Happiness, you must master Sorrow. For Success in Life; Believe in Self and God, Learn from Past, Concentrate in Present, Plan for Future. Have control on, be the master of, not the slave of your body, senses, and mind. Purpose of this Life is to Gain and Share utmost Knowledge and Experience to differentiate and choose Right, Good, God against Wrong, Bad, Devil. Set your Desire level perfect or OK to be brave, no low to be coward, no high to be cruel. You have rights of Survival, Self Defence, and Freedom.
2007-10-09 05:09:55
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answered by Ravi Lohia 5
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God is real.I know from experience.We do have free will.It's our choice whether we kill someone or not.God knows all things but He gives us freedom to choose.He did create Satan who was called Lucifer an angel who chose to fight against God's rule in Heaven.So the original sin is disobedience.God set down certain rules and like most children we have to push the boundaries to see how far we can go.God didn't make the choice for us to be disobedient we do.So it's on us if we end up in Hell.Hell is also being deprived of His presence.
2007-10-08 07:30:03
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answered by flossie mae 5
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