Question about wild/ prickly rose.!?

Question

I am doing a science project a need some help!
First of all, I think a wild rose and a prickly rose is teh same thing. My teacher doesn't. Is it or is it not?

I cannot find (for either roses) what is the name of the founder. Yep we need to k now this. Any help appreciated thanks!

Answer 1

Wild rose is the one that exists in its pristine glory and does not show any sign of human interference !

There are many wild roses in existence today.
They do not compare favorably with the umpteen number of hybrid roses but then, those hybrids owe their origin to the 'wild' ones!!!

click on the links below to have a glimpse of them.

1 ) Rosa virginiana, commonly known as the Virginia Rose .Common Wild Rose or Prairie Rose, is a woody perennial in the rose family native to eastern North America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rosa_virginiana.jpg

2 )Rosa rugosa (Rugosa Rose, Japanese Rose, or Ramanas Rose) is a species of rose native to eastern Asia, in northeastern China, Japan, Korea and southeastern Siberia, where it grows on the coast, often on sand dunes.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Rosa_rugosa0.jpg

3 ) Rosa canina ==Rosa canina (lit. Dog Rose, often called incorrectly Rosehip) is a variable scrambling rose species native to Europe, northwest Africa and western Asia.

Forms of this plant are sometimes used as stocks for the grafting or budding of cultivated varieties.

The wild plant is planted as a nurse or cover crop, or stabilising plant in land reclamation and specialised landscaping schemes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rosa_canina_flower_Luc_Viatour.JPG
http://www.floracyberia.net/spermatophyta/angiospermae/dicotyledoneae/rosaceae/rosa_canina.jpg


Now for the prickly rose ( Matter below is important for you )

Rosa acicularis (syn. R. alpina, R. bourgeauiana, R. gmelinii, R. karelica, R. sayi),

also known as the Wild Rose, the Prickly Rose, or the Arctic Rose,
is a species of wild rose with a Holarctic distribution in northern regions of Asia, Europe, and North America.

It is a deciduous shrub growing to 1-3 m tall. The leaves are pinnate, 7-14 cm long, with three to seven leaflets. The flowers are pink (rarely white), 3.5-5 cm diameter; the 'hips' are red, pear-shaped to ovoid, 10-15 mm diameter.
Hips == fruits of rose are called 'hips' ! Click on the link to seea photo.
http://www.isledegrande.com/giimages9/rosehip1.jpg

click on the link to see fruits / seeds in side a hip.
http://wls.wwco.com/garden/rosehipseeds2.jpg

It is the official flower of the Canadian province of Alberta,and is common throughout the province and Western Canada in general.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Rosa_acicularis.jpg

So to cut a long story short =

A) Aprickly rose IS a wild rose.

BUT

B) All wild roses ARE NOT termed as prickly roses .

http://www.artshopgallery.com/Niebrugge%20Prickly%20Rose.jpg

Than you .

Answer 2

Ok, what I know as "prickly rose" is Rosa acicularis; what I know as "wild rose" is Rosa caroliniana, R. arkansana or R. praticola.. However, I cannot tell you if either of those species are what you're working with -- common names are just too vague to work with for most purposes. So your first task is going to be to identify the species you're actually working with. This can be a big chore because the genus Rosa is so large.

Perhaps your local extension service can help you with the ID, or refer you to a plant taxonomist/plant systematist who might be willing to make the id. In either case, you'll need a good sample of the plant, including several leaves on a stem, and also flowers
and fruits. The easy way to preserve these is to mash sections
of leaves, flowers and fruits in a phone book or two,weighted with bricks or other books. Every day until the plant parts are
dry, remove the plant parts from the phone book, and replace them into a dry phone book, or a new section of the phone book
(preferably at least 40 pages away from where they were). This will give a taxonomist a specimen they have a prayer of identifying. (I used to get specimens in plastic bags in the mail... over a long weekend, they'd rot and I could pour out the contents of the bag, but not begin to identify the plant that went into the bag).

I'm not sure what you mean by "founder". Are you referring to the author's name, like Rosa alba L., where L stands for Linneaeus? If that's so, once you get the id established, you can find the author by checking either plants.usda.gov (for US species) or IPNI: http://www.ipni.org/

Answer 3

A 'wild rose' is a species rose or a naturally occurring hybrid rose. There are some 100 to 200 rose species found in the northern hemispheres. The Prickly Rose is one of the species roses so you can call it a wild rose but Canada has it as a provincial emblem as the Wild Rose. http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/wilderness/wildflowers/wild.htm
The capital letters tell you Wild Rose is a name rather than a generic wild species rose. With common names can come the confusion you are having with your instructor. This is why it is best to use the latin binomial name when possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rosa_species
The actual number of species in existence is unclear as a number of the "wild roses" may be naturalized from other places and adapted to new environments. There is also a certain amount of naturally occurring hybridization between species which also tends to obscure the differences. Wild roses have been named and used for centuries for both food and medicine.
http://www.findmyroses.com/RoseSearch.htm

Rosa acicularis is called the Arctic Rose or the Prickly Rose. This rose can be found circumpolar in the northern hemisphere. I do not know ho found and classified it originally but Linnaeus gave it the modern binomial name Rosa acicularis. Rosa acicularis Lindley was named for the English botanist John Lindley who named this variant in this 1820 monograph "Rosarum Monographia"
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0007-196X(19590115)11%3A1%3C1%3AAMOTGR%3E2.0.CO%3B2-K
He named about a hundred species and subspecies in this paper.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/roses.php?searchNmTyp=2&searchNm=Rosa+acicularis&sbSearch=SEARCH&tab=1
The Woods Rose Rosa woodsii Lindley can be confused with Rosa acicularis Lindley. Both plants are in the monograph.
Plant associations found with Rosa acicularis
http://www.fs.fed.us/database/feis/plants/shrub/rosaci/all.html
http://www.rook.org/earl/bwca/nature/shrubs/rosaaci.html
http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Rosa+acicularis

http://www.everyrose.com/everyrose/articles.lasso
http://www.evergreen.ca/nativeplants/search/view-plant.php?ID=00579

Good luck with your Wild Rose

Answer 4

Yes.