Creationists: what part of the Big Bang theory says that "something came from nothing"?

Question

Despite reading several books that explained the Big Bang theory, the only place I've ever seen the claim made that "something came from nothing" was in Genesis.

Yet, creationists always say that The Big Bang theory is wrong because it claims that "something came from nothing."

What part of the Big Bang Theory says that something came from nothing?

I'd prefer answers with citations. That would allow me to read for myself where the Big Bang theory makes the claim.

I'm asking this in R&S because the people in the science section can't find the claim anywhere in Big Bang literature either.

Lion of Judah: How am I supposed to answer your question without resorting to "theory" or "fancy explanations"?

Do you want me to make you magically understand without explaining it to you? I can't do that.

Answer 1

Right. All it says is that all matter at some point existed at the same place/point. It doesn't say there was "nothing" before that, although perhaps that is the case. It could have been a bounce from an earlier collapsing universe. It could have sprouted from another universe. Perhaps that one point always existed.

Answer 2

Our current math and tools falls to bits at a point 1e(-43) seconds after the big bang event at t0. At that point the singularity already exists, and is 1 Planck length in diameter, unspeakably hot, and as dense as you would expect with the entire universe stuffed into such an unimaginably small volume. The four forces (gravity, electromagnetism and the two nuclear forces) were previously unified into a single superforce, which may be Quantum Supergravity. We don't know enough about this, so we can't do any further calculations to get closer to t0. At the point where our current math starts working again, gravity separates from the other three unified forces. We have to wait until the Superunified force is described before we can go deeper. Exactly what happened at t0 is still cloaked, so all that's available are hypotheses based on other developing ideas in very freaky maths. Branes suggest, for instance, that the Singularity that formed the universe appeared when two branes intersected at a point - the point was the Singularity. Another angle on this described the Singularity as a virtual particle. These particles pop in and out of existence all the time in the normal world, and such an event on an extremely large scale could have formed the universe. Note that the 'you can't get something from nothing' objection is already blown by virtual particles, and although such a huge virtual particle is probabilistically unlikely, such probabilities may not be a problem in a pre-universe environment of no-time/no-space. There's no way to make this stuff much more palatable. Nobody really knows yet, and there are only a lot of cool ideas with no way to establish which, if any, is The One. You can even shoehorn God in there if you must - though he's never been anywhere looked in previously. CD

Answer 3

The Big Bang theory postulates that once there was a teeny weeny singularity that later expanded to become the universe as we know it. However ...

"Prior to the singularity, nothing existed, not space, time, matter, or energy - nothing. So where and in what did the singularity appear if not in space? We don't know. We don't know where it came from, why it's here, or even where it is. All we really know is that we are inside of it and at one time it didn't exist and neither did we. " Source:
http://www.allaboutscience.org/big-bang-...

Interesting to note: You say that nowhere have you seen it written than the big bang theory claims "something came from nothing." Well that might or might not be the case, but you will also not find anyone who will tell you where the beginning of the beginning came from.

Answer 4

The big bang theory is a model used to explain how the universe expanded from a "primordial" condition.
What was that condition and where it came from is the basis for argument and "speculations".
Where did the original condition begin?
It was always there, which is difficult for most anyone to believe.
Also to speculate the existing physical laws and appropriate physics "came" into existence is a "theory" which of course is a term used instead of guess what?
The origin of the universe does not disclaim the Bible, it is a quest for a beginning which is a paradox because you or any one else on this earth will ever know.
Seems like a wast of effort just to keep answering the same mundane queries.
Get A Grip

Answer 5

Forgive an uneducated dunce for asking this question, but where, exactly, does the Big Bang theory actually tell us just where the "something" actually did come from?
I keep hearing about a "singularity" which seems to be a fancy term that means "everything packed into a very small package that simply exploded from the internal pressure". Of course, nobody is quite sure where this matter came from.
The universe is expanding, we are told, which absolutely proves that this explosion took place untold eons ago...yet the universe is "infinite" as in "all there is". I hear about "red shifts" and "entropy", but nobody seems to be able to explain how all-there-is could be expanding into nothing-at-all.
Bottom line...how does this Big Bang theory deny the existence of God? I have also queried science experts about these questions, but, other than insulting remarks about my intelligence, they seem to come up empty.
If you have any answers for me, other than such damn fool lines as "go read a book", which basically means "I don't know either, but I don't want to admit that to you," I'd appreciate hearing from you.
But even if you don't, God bless you, anyhow.

Answer 6

I'm not a scientist but I know one who works at CERN, we don't know the exact mechanism that started the Big Bang however we know it happened, that it happened is not a point of speculation.

The basic building blocks of matter are quarks, protons and neutrons and we know they were in existence a billionth of a second into the beginning of the Big Bang, not only is there matter but there is also anti-matter and something called dark matter so dense it reflects no light...it's all fascinating but difficult for a non-physicist to follow.

As the Big Bang is an expansion rather than an explosion it suggests there was something already extant that expanded.

Answer 7

The "big bang" theory does not rely upon the statement that "something came out of nothing." The "big bang" theory supposes the existence of something and that that something blew up and resulted in what we call the universe!

But you are right in saying that Genesis presents the idea that God created out of nothing. He spoke and "bang" it was! He commanded, and it stood fast! Psalm 33:9.

Answer 8

I don't know exactly what the Big Bang Theory states. I just know it's built on the concept that either something came from nothing or something was always in existence. Neither of which seems to be scientific to me. It's not scientifically possible for something to come from nothing. 'Something always existed' cuts science short because whenever a new discover is made, the next question is, "Where did it come from."

Anyway, it seems very unlikely that some minuscule element always existed and, by accident, evolved into all of creation. It is much more believable that a greater being always existed and created all of creation.

I guess we just disagree, right?

Answer 9

Nowhere. The source of the Big Bang was a singularity, a single point of time and space. No one has EVER claimed that this singularity was "nothing". It is only the Creationists who make this claim.

Answer 10

We say this because none of your claims as to how the world began make any sense at all. How can you say that the Big Bang didn't come from God himself? Not saying that it did but the point is the scientific explanations of how this world came about are not proof they are just another theory. It is the same as evolution. Look up Berkeley edu and evolution all they give are examples of adaptation. You show me proof that the big bang theory has been proven scientifically and there won't be any more misunderstandings.