Abraham's sacrifice of his Son?

Question

This is a queston for the Christians. Both Christians and Muslims know the story of Abraham being asked to sacrifice his son. (we differ on which son,but the basic story is the same)
For us as Muslims it is a simple test of Ibrahims faith.
Will he obey Allah? he proved he was willing,and a ram was sent instead.
The Chistians on the other hand say it is a "type" or a foreshadowing of Gods sacrifice of Christ to atone for the sins of the world.
Yet in the old testement context sacrifice was to atone for the sins of those makeing the sacrifice.
Ibrahims sacrifice of his son would atone for his sins.
By that logic whos sins are atoned for by God sacrificing His son?

Dis rythemic whatcha ever:
one queston:WHAT?
And for the rest of you this story about Abraham is preached in christian fundementalist pulpits just the way i stated it every Sunday.
Any time you get called on the enormity of your blasphmy you do one of two things 1 you say "lean not to your own understanding" the implication being one should lean to yours, or you cap the old "Prune-Face Ronny Reagan" and pretend you cant hear.

Answer 1

Humankind's.

Answer 2

surah 37:

99. He said: "I will go to my Lord! He will surely guide me!
100. "O my Lord! Grant me a righteous (son)!"
101. So We gave him the good news of a forbearing son.
102. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I have seen in a vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills, one of the steadfast!"
103. So when they had both submitted (to Allah), and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice),
104. We called out to him "O Abraham! ...
105. "Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!" - thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
106. For this was a clear trial-
107. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice:
108. And We left for him among generations (to come) in later times:
109. "Peace and salutation to Abraham!"
110. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
111. For he was one of Our believing Servants.

112. And We gave him the good news of Isaac - a prophet,- one of the Righteous.
113. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong, to themselves.


It is very obvious that, in this passage, there are two distinct good news, the first one about a forbearing son (the one to be sacrificed) and the second one about Isaac. Thus, the sacrificed cannot be Isaac at least not according to the Qur'ân.

Answer 3

Abraham (Ibrahim) abandoned his first son Ismael, when his wife Sarah gave birth to Isaac. Under pressure from Sarah he threw Hagar (his concubine) and Ismael out into the desert with a bottle of water. One might conclude that the story of Abraham being asked to sacrifice Isaac was really a test from God. It seems he was prepared to do it. But the first test was set by Sarah, not by God. And being asked to sacrifice his son Isaac was to atone for the sin of casting out Ismael.

Answer 4

Actually, I believe that the high priest would enter into the Holy of Holies once a year and offer an atonement for his and all of Israel's sins. Thus, the sacrifice offered covered a multitude of people and their sins. Further, a ram, lamb, or doves were offered as attonement for their sins... they did not offer themselves, but a substitution was offered. Thus, God sending His Son as a substitutionary attonement for the sins of all mankind is logical since the high priest could offer an animal sacrifice in the Old Testament for all of Israel's sins. Luckily, we have a perfect sacrifice to cover our sins that only had to be offered once.

Also, in the New Testament in the book of James it is stated "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." James 2: 21-24 Thus, Abraham's faith was tested... and he was found a man of great faith... so in that... we agree.

Answer 5

As a Christian it is my belief that God's sacrifice of His Son, Jesus was for all people, who would believe in the Deity of Jesus and repent of sin. The blood of God's only Son was the only sacrifice perfect enough for God to forgive the sin of all. The logic is that in the sacrifices prior to Jesus the animal or fowl were supposed to be perfect without blemish or defect. The only perfect sacrifice for all was Jesus, He is perfect, without sin, without blemish. His blood was the only blood sin free to be the substitute sacrifice for forgiveness.

Answer 6

The only "atonement" Abraham foresaw was preventing his son from taking over the precious relationship he had with God. God adored Isaac and Abraham felt jealous and was going to kill him when God stopped him

Answer 7

it wasnt so much about obedience as it was about faith .. abraham believed God when God told him that he would have a son and would raise a great nation out of him .. it wasnt about the sacrifice .. he never doubted God ..

Answer 8

i believe it was a test of faith and to be honest i havent heard any christians claiming that it was about christ although im sure it has probably been said

Answer 9

Very clever!

Indeed, anyone who has actually looked at the old testament for more than 5 minutes will see that God has a lot to atone for.

He's the worst sinner of all. 'Do as I say, don't do as I do'? Why would people worship such a vile ogre? It baffles me.

*Did nobody get what you were saying here?*

Answer 10

yeah u r right they think the Christian that he sacrifice his self for our sins all humanity