Why is every creationist claim a straw man argument?

Question

I want a challenge.

cadisneygirl, I want to argue back but you don't allow IM or email. Feel free to contact me and we'll talk.

Answer 1

Hi, Phoenix...

I would be more than delighted to provide you with a challenge that will make your head spin. Email me with your question, or state your argument or premise and we'll go from there.

Answer 2

When you can prove beyond a doubt that evolution from species to species was 100 percent the way that humans came into existance well then you still wont have disproved the possibility of creation because a claim can still be made that God directed the evolution to take place within the creation.

You cant disprove God anymore then I can prove God.

What I would like evolutionists to acknowledge is that their theory might possibly be incorrect. Science itself dictates that a rational thinking scientifically minded person would at least consider the possibility that evolution is not correct. Evolution between species has many many flaws. You can believe it is the best theory we have come up with so far given the evidence we have at this time, but to hold to it like it cant possibly be denied is clinging onto the theory of evolution with an incredible amount of faith. Faith is the hope that what you believe is true. Evolution has not been proven anywhere near beyond a reasonable doubt. You might have some evidence that points to evolution but to make the claim it is 100 percent true is clinging to faith.

All I want for evolutionists to do is admit that scientifically speaking it is possible that it is not correct. A good scientist would admit this possibility.
Creationists dont have to admit that they might be wrong because their entire claim is based on nothing but faith and individual revelation. A scientist that believes in evolution based solely on the evidence at hand would have to admit its flaws and be open to the possibility that we dont have all the answers yet and that this answer might possibly be incorrect.


Science and God dont have to contradict each other. God can work thru scientific principles.


phoenix if I allowed that I would get more then I think I want to bargain for, not meaning you, but a lot of others, esp since I am mormon and answer a lot of mormon questions, from a lot of anti mormons who want to save me.

Answer 3

There is more evidence showing the existence of creation than there is of evolution. Why is that there is no evidence of evolution happening on a daily basis? Did it just stop after 900 billion years. Just the workings of the human eye should be enough proof of a careful design a creator. What is everyone so afraid of to admit that all this around us life did not come from some train wreck but from a careful intelligent loving creator. Is this so harmful to ponder are our egos that fragile to admit that there is something greater than us? How is that man as simple as evolutionist make us out to be off spring of apes with our simple ape like minds our simple will and thoughts with sweat and toil can build ships to take us to space. build towers taller than anyone could have ever imagined create weapons that can destroy millions in a moment and the list goes on. As smart as we think we are and knowing what we are capable of doing with just our simple minds. seeing all the evidence around us and not believe that there could be an existence of a being who could create us and everything in it with just a thought just a will creating us out of a need for love as it is written.

Answer 4

My favorite comment so far is:
"You cant disprove God anymore then I can prove God."

My next-favorite comment follows it immediately:
"What I would like evolutionists to acknowledge is that their theory might possibly be incorrect. "

The irony is that creationists rely on "documentation" in the form of the Bible and/or other writings holy to them. If I were to produce such shoddy documentation for process and product, I would be fired. If I were to actually be able to publish such a document and sign my "name" to it, as it were, I would be mocked and derided as incompetent and irrational and exposed as a fraud. If the hero(es) of my stories were actual persons, they would sue me for slander. Point? Disprove God? If Biblegod were real, he would not leave uncorrected the book that claims to be his infallable word.

Part 2: There is not total agreement in the scientific community about a single package of evolutionary analysis. There are multiple interpretations, some even allowing for "some" creator factor.

Conclusion: Since the biblical creation accounts (yes, there ARE two of them) are flawed, a "creationist" must explain his/her source of information. Some evolutionists gravitate to one THEORY or another. They are still, refreshingly, calling them THEORIES. So those of us who don't worry about either side in particular are probably really annoying to those who want us to be really scared of an entity that could create everything existing but not manage to properly edit a simple book.

It's not really a challenge, Phoenix.

Answer 5

The straw man wanted a heart.

Answer 6

They don't bother to try to learn about what they criticize. They are convinced that anything not part of their fairy-tale is wrong, and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.

Efforts are best spent on trying to undo their damage.

Answer 7

For the same reason that evolutionists cannot differentiate between facts and interpretation of those facts.

Answer 8

so......
basically you are saying thay you believe that everything, everywhere, in all the cosmos came from a small speck of highly compressed dust that blew up billions of years ago and became.........us?

wow......that takes faith

your straw is showing from under your hat, my friend

BTW.....where did your speck of high;y compressed dust come from?

Answer 9

When you get down to it, all creationist arguments are all riddled with logical fallacy.

Answer 10

Honestly, what else do creationists have?
Evidence isn't on their side. Maybe God is.... yeah right ;)