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All the research I have done in the Bible says Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mothers milk. Deut. 14:21 Seethe=boil kid=goat I looked up the literal meaning to these words so I know they are correct. I have been told by a Jewish person this is why they do not eat meat with cheese. I do not understand where they get that from. They will not eat a cheeseburger or eat any kind of meat prepared next to cheese. Please help me better understand why they may belive this. Do they believe this because of a different verse or are they changing the meaning of of this verse???

Thank You

2007-10-07 17:08:35 · 20 answers · asked by ON FIRE 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I got this from the Virtual Jewish Library:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/kashrut.html#Separation

The ORAL TORAH it speaks about in the first paragraph is the Mishna, which is a part of the Talmud-the interpretation by the Pharisees, the ancestors of the modern rabbis. The Talmud was written AFTER Jesus, after the Second Temple was destroyed.
This is the contradiction that modern day rabbinic Jews do not understand-and why when I supply an answer, I get so many negative votes....Read below, and you will see there are quite a few rules, but none of these rules come from the WRITTEN TORAH. They come from man's interpretation...It is not in the Bible. But, what is in the Bible says that these rules are traditions, and not laws, because what is in the Bible-the Old Testament-is the Law and Prophesies that say that the Messiah was to come, and that from that day forward, the laws would be not of the flesh, but of the Spirit.
Jesus is the Oral Torah, the Word that was spoken when Moses was WITH G-d, and, like the Talmud, clarified the original sayings, when the Word came directly from G-D-through Jesus-as prophesied in Ezekiel 34.
You're right when you say it is not in the Bible. But, until they see the truth, you will not get a rabbinic Jew to agree. I was a rabbinic Jew until I looked more closely into the Bible, until I better understood that my belief in Jesus does not take away one dot or tittle of what I believe about the Old Testament...But, here is what the rabbinic Jew believes, a sper the link I supplied above:

Separation of Meat and Dairy
On three separate occasions, the Torah tells us not to "boil a kid in its mother's milk." (Ex. 23:19; Ex. 34:26; Deut. 14:21). The Oral Torah explains that this passage prohibits eating meat and dairy together. The rabbis extended this prohibition to include not eating milk and poultry together. It is, however, permissible to eat fish and dairy together, and it is quite common. It is also permissible to eat dairy and eggs together. According to some views, it is not permissible to eat meat and fish together, but I am not certain of the reason for that restriction.

This separation includes not only the foods themselves, but the utensils, pots and pans with which they are cooked, the plates and flatware from which they are eaten, the dishwashers or dishpans in which they are cleaned, and the towels on which they are dried. A kosher household will have at least two sets of pots, pans and dishes: one for meat and one for dairy. See Utensils below for more details.

One must wait a significant amount of time between eating meat and dairy. Opinions differ, and vary from three to six hours. This is because fatty residues and meat particles tend to cling to the mouth. From dairy to meat, however, one need only rinse one's mouth and eat a neutral solid like bread, unless the dairy product in question is also of a type that tends to stick in the mouth.

The Yiddish words fleishig (meat), milchig (dairy) and pareve (neutral) are commonly used to describe food or utensils that fall into one of those categories.

Note that even the smallest quantity of dairy (or meat) in something renders it entirely dairy (or meat) for purposes of kashrut. For example, most margarines are dairy for kosher purposes, because they contain a small quantity of whey or other dairy products to give it a dairy-like taste. Animal fat is considered meat for purposes of kashrut. You should read the ingredients very carefully, even if the product is kosher-certified.

2007-10-07 17:30:16 · answer #1 · answered by sirburd 4 · 4 0

It's part of the Kosher laws, but most Jewish people don't keep Kosher. Only a few old fashioned, religious ones do. As for why, I only know that milk and meat aren't supposed to be mixed together but no one ever said why. I read once that there was some health reason behind it, that meat is more difficult to digest if dairy is eaten at the same time, but not sure if this is true.

Since cheese is a dairy product, it has milk in it, hence not mixing milk with meat. People who follow this rule also won't eat pepperoni pizza for the same reason.

2007-10-07 17:16:32 · answer #2 · answered by Wintergirl 5 · 0 1

The Bible is only a small, minute part of the Torah. The Bible is the written part of the Torah and the rest was given orally at Mount Sinai. In later generations, the Sages were worried that people would forget the Oral Torah in the Diaspora and therefore they wrote it down, the Mishna, Talmud, etc... So while in the written Torah, the Bible, it says "Thou shall not seethe a kid in its mother's milk," the complex dietary laws, (kashrut), are written in the Oral Torah. One of these laws is that meat, fowl, etc... can not be eaten together with dairy products.
I hope this answers your question.

2007-10-08 10:41:33 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

In a nutshell--the prohibition in the Torah is not to cook a calf in its mother's milk. This prohibition is somewhat vague, and considered so important that so-called "fences" around the law were enacted by the rabbis to ensure that the law itself wouldn't ever be broken. Hence, no eating beef with goats' milk or milk products, just in case someone screwed up. Similarly, no eating poultry with milk just in case: 1) someone screwed up and gave you ground veal instead of ground chicken; and 2) in order to to even give the *appearance* to someone else that you were mixing meat with dairy. Eating fish with dairy is OK because, it was felt, no one could ever mistake eating fish for eating some other animal protein source.

2016-04-07 10:29:03 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes, you have the idea right. They are forbidden by their religious law from cooking and animal with the milk of the same animal. The idea is that is it cruel and inhuman to use something as sacred and lifegiving as milk as part of the death broth of the offspring of that same animal. Think about it in terms of a dog. What would you think about someone who boiled a puppy in dog milk and ate it? Disgusting. Well here in the states we would think it was gross to eat a dog anyway, but in Asia it is common. But doesn't cooking it in the milk of the same animal make it somehow worse and more 'cruel'? So the same way, it is something unclean and disgusting they won't do, regardles of the animal. Cheese comes from milk. So you might say it isn't that specific animals mothers milk, but I don't think that is the idea. The bearing behind it is that it is somehow inhuman to prepare the meat of an animal along with the milk. I've eaten my share of cheeseburgers, but I also 100 percent understand this religious law.

2007-10-07 17:18:34 · answer #5 · answered by CB 7 · 2 1

All cheeses are not kosher.
Some cheeses contain pork rennet (the enzyme necessary in the cheese manufacturing process). This has to do with the enzyme "Rennin"..............
A person can buy cheese that has been manufactured with plant enzymes, and these are considered kosher.

Many religions observe similar ideals in this area of what foods may or may not be consumed by humans.

It is held by many not to mix any meat product with the milk that is withdrawn from the female of the same species.

2007-10-07 17:23:53 · answer #6 · answered by WillRogerswannabe 7 · 0 1

Basically, it means you can't mix death with life

death meaning the (dead) meat and milk (since milk gives life to young animals and it's from a live animal)

this also means Jewish people can't use a pot for cooking meat and then use the same pot to cook milk or cheese, even after it's been washed, they have cookware used for meat and separate cookware (and utensils too) for milk/cheese

crazy i know

2007-10-07 17:13:48 · answer #7 · answered by Tricky 2 · 2 0

because it is not clean and the potential for spoiling the milk is there remember the dietary laws were written in a time when meat and milk would spoil because they didn't have preservatives all so the laws were written for the benefit of man you should read the Torah instead of your bible it will clarify things a little better

2007-10-07 17:24:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Supposedly this prohibition against cooking A young goat in its mother's milk may reflect a Canaanite fertility rite. Or my understanding was that it may just means that the Israelites were not to take what was intended to promote life and use it to kill or destroy life. This commandment is also given in Exodus 23:19

Therefore from my understanding its representing life.

2007-10-07 17:31:05 · answer #9 · answered by DanD 4 · 0 1

this page discusses it.

some of the common inteperetations of some rules, are simply ultra-broad inteperetations of the word of the law, as to be absolutely positively 1000% certain of not violating the spirit of that law.

additionally, since we can't be absolutely sure on exactly where the boder of the spirit of the law begins or ends, (maybe the issue is more of a health thing, or a question of bacterial sanitation that is not as important now, since we ave better sanitation) being extra generously broad with its inteperetation, is just safer.

hopefully that covers it.

2007-10-07 17:15:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

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