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the protestantism teaches the faith only in jesu christ is enough for the salvation because Paul said that.. but james said something very different.. show me your faith without deeds.. and I will show my faith by what I do. 19 you believe there is one God. Good! even the demons believe that and shudder.. 20 you foolish person, do you believe that faith without is useless? how can you deal with two points very different? James chapter 2.. paul said the faith justified the salvation and james said the action is more important than the belief

2007-10-07 16:05:10 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Paul changed Christianity so that he didn't have to follow the Laws anymore, and he's been fooling Christians into Sin ever since. I'm sure Christians realize this but they don't want to follow the Laws either so they keep the lie going.

Forget James and Paul, what did Jesus say ?

''Not everyone who says to me Lord Lord shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven but only he who does the will of my father in heaven ''

2007-10-07 16:07:09 · answer #1 · answered by B 3 · 1 4

The question of faith alone or faith plus works is made difficult by some hard-to-reconcile Bible passages. Compare Romans 3:28, 5:1 and Galatians 3:24 with James 2:24. Some see a difference between Paul (salvation is by faith alone) and James (salvation is by faith plus works). In reality, Paul and James did not disagree at all. The only point of disagreement some people claim is over the relationship between faith and works. Paul dogmatically says that justification is by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9) while James appears to be saying that justification is by faith plus works. This apparent problem is answered by examining what exactly James is talking about. James is refuting the belief that a person can have faith without producing any good works (James 2:17-18). James is emphasizing the point that genuine faith in Christ will produce a changed life and good works (James 2:20-26). James is not saying that justification is by faith plus works, but rather that a person who is truly justified by faith will have good works in his life. If a person claims to be a believer, but has no good works in his life – then he likely does not have genuine faith in Christ (James 2:14, 17, 20, 26).

2007-10-07 16:18:24 · answer #2 · answered by Freedom 7 · 1 1

James is actually saying the same thing that Paul preached. Look at verse 19--" You believe that there is one God you do well" what he is saying is that if you believe that there is one God your thinking is very much right, for there is one God . There are a lot of people that believe that there is a God , But simply believing there is a God says no more than what devils believe. Verse 19 goes on to say "the Devils also believe and tremble." this is the dead faith that he is talking about. Go back to verse 14--" What does it profit,my brethren, though a man say he has faith, and have not works? can faith save him. Just believing In God is not enough to save a person . Proper faith will go beyond believing (this is where the works comes in at) By accepting the Lord Jesus Christ as ones Saviour and serving Him. It's simply putting actions to your belief. That's why Paul taught that faith in Christ was enough for salvation, because it's faith with works. Look at verses 15-17 "If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, and you say unto them, Depart in Peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding you give them not those things which are needful to the body; what does it profit? Even so Faith, if it has not works is dead, being alone." The Bible declares that Jesus is the Bread Of Life. So, if say we believe in God, But never accept Jesus and what He did for us at Calvary, we cannot give them the bread of life. So, therefore, we are no good to them because we can't feed them the spiritual food that they need to grow spiritually. (Any faith that doesn't have What Jesus did for us at calvary as its proper object is Dead Faith."

2007-10-07 17:43:03 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

James 2:18 "Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works."

We may be associating with God’s people to some extent, but only wholehearted works can back up our claim that we have faith. It is fine if we have rejected the Trinity doctrine and believe that there is one true God. Yet, mere belief is not faith. “The demons believe,” and they “shudder” fearfully because destruction awaits them. If we truly have faith, it will move us to produce such works as preaching the good news and providing food and clothing for needy fellow believers. James asks: “Do you care to know, O empty man [not filled with accurate knowledge of God], that faith apart from works is inactive?” Yes, faith calls for action.

Abraham, as “the father of all those having faith,” he was “declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar.” What if Abraham had lacked faith that God could resurrect Isaac and fulfill His promise of a seed through him? Then Abraham would never have tried to offer up his son. It was by Abraham’s obedient works that “his faith was perfected,” or made complete.

Abraham proved “that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.”

James says: “Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.” When a person is dead, there is no animating force, or “spirit,” in him, and he accomplishes nothing. Mere professed faith is just as lifeless and useless as a dead body. If we have real faith, though, it will move us to godly action.

2007-10-07 17:48:55 · answer #4 · answered by BJ 7 · 0 0

repeating scripture and not knowing scripture is dangerous, cause ppl use it out of context. when paul wrote that, it had nothing to do with going to a doctor, or any of that. paul was talking bout LAZY christains. faith without works is dead. he was telling them that we all are called to do some type of job for the kingdom of God, and how can a person say that they have great faith and there are no works to show ur faith. God didnt call us to go to church for ten yrs and just sit on the pew and never do nothing for the kingdom. paul and none of the other apostles was lazy. what if paul would have been lazy, the new testament would be very short. your faith should make ppl want to work for the kingdom. the more u believe in jesus the more u want to work to get his name out there to a dying world. paul was actually saying in a nutshell, the more the faith the greater the work and sacrifice and lesser the faith, the lesser the work and the sacrifice.

2016-05-18 21:20:23 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Faith is what saves us. The Bible is clear about that. However works come with faith. If you are a Christian you are going to want to do good. What I think James meant is that your works prove your faith. If you say you have faith and are saved and yet you do nothing for Jesus. You do not have love. You have no works then your actual faith is questionable. It is not that works that save you but works show that you have been saved.

2007-10-07 16:30:05 · answer #6 · answered by Bible warrior 5 · 0 1

That is because we show our faith to non-Christians through our works. If I sin all over the place and then try to win a lost person to Christ my sin will mess up any chance I might have with that person. After getting saved it is our Job to lead others to Christ. Sin ruins our testimony in the eyes of the unsaved and therefore, makes us useless in spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

2007-10-07 16:14:42 · answer #7 · answered by tas211 6 · 2 0

Paul teaches how to become a Christian, and salvation is only through faith and mercy of God. James tells to people who are already Christians what to do.

Like you can get married, but when you are really marred? After the ceremony, after the party, after the consummation of the marriage or after you start to live your life as a married person?

Do you want to stay married in paper, or do you want to enjoy your marriage?

2007-10-07 16:10:13 · answer #8 · answered by Nina, BaC 7 · 1 1

Faith is not just the basis of salvation, it is the basis of the entire Christian life. James is not talking about salvation, he is talking to Christians about how to live in Christ, and the "just shall live by faith."

2007-10-07 16:11:15 · answer #9 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 1 1

You're confusing justification by faith alone and santification. We're declared just through the instrument of faith where righteousness of Christ is imputed to the sinners who repented and put their trust in Jesus. We demonstrate our faith through the works we do cause a good tree bears good fruit, and if the tree produces consistant bad fruit or works, then maybe that tree was never regenerated. So examine yourself to see if you're in the faith.

2007-10-07 16:10:25 · answer #10 · answered by Sam L 3 · 2 1

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