How many here are trying to find a common ground between theism and science?

Question

Creationists say that they do that. Scientists, except the minority that are also creationist, don't accept it. I don't accept it either. Fine, but we should continue to try. Religious people should try to unify their belief with science, not just have it together with science as if there was two distinct ultimate realities: God on the religious side and the laws of nature on the science side. In the same way, scientists should realize that the laws of nature aren't just something outside us only accessible through external devices.

There is an obvious link between these two realities. Our brain is a tool to take full advantage of these laws of nature through an efficient technique of meditation. This is currently explored within science. Any experience related to God, in any form, must be an expression of the laws of nature. It is not a peculiar unification. It is not at all a diminution of God. It is a better appreciation of the laws of nature. It's the same.

It is the second time I ask the question. The first time it showed only few seconds in the list of 4. It happens some times.

Answer 1

Such a great question, and as I answered it before with my own views, this time I will share those of the Nobel Laureate

Richard Feynman.

A poet once said, "The whole universe is in a glass of wine." We willprobably never know in what sense he meant that, for poets do not write to be understood.

But it is true that if we look at a glass of wine closely enough we see the entire universe. There are the things of physics: the twisting liquid which evaporates depending on the wind and weather, the reflections in the glass, and our imagination adds the atoms. The glass is a distillation of the earth's rocks, and in its composition we see the secrets of the universe's age, and the evolution of stars.

What strange array of chemicals are in the wine? How did they come to be? There are the ferments, the enzymes, the substrates, and the products. There in wine is found the great generalization: all life is fermentation. Nobody can discover the chemistry of wine without discovering, as did Louis Pasteur, the cause of much disease. How vivid is the claret, pressing its existence into the consciousness that watches it!

If our small minds, for some convenience, divide this glass of wine, this universe, into parts --
physics, biology, geology, astronomy, psychology, and so on -- remember that
nature does not know it! So let us put it all back together, not forgetting ultimately what it is for. Let it give us one more final pleasure: drink it and forget it all!

Answer 2

Oh, there definitely is: WAR! See, theology helps to justify it and science helps to create the new weapons to try out on the enemy. Science and religion go real good together in war.

Answer 3

i believe that organic mechanisms are the substances of 'stuff' interior the universe. that incorporates, in the mean time, the procedures defined via the assumption of evolution, the enormous bang hypothesis, and so on. in spite of this i've got spent too plenty time in technology and the history of the sphere to outright reject the existence of phenomena we could planned to be fantasy, supernatural or technology fiction. So, somewhat, i'm agnostic with connection with those issues ... for the 2d.

Answer 4

Right when we agree that the science is not the only way of knowing.

Answer 5

I'm not trying to find common ground because I know that science and faith are not mutually exclusive.

Answer 6

The garbage dump is the common ground, panda bear avatar.

Answer 7

"Laws of nature" are not God, they are created by God.

Answer 8

Actually, when you consider all the factors or whatever, theism is not a very tenable position anyway.

Answer 9

::raises hand::