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well-being depend on it. This is universal. This is why there are wars over religions. Atheists are not different. To understand what I mean, see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4fQA9mt-Mg
I am not blaming atheists for that. This is normal. They should care. However, some atheists are so blind that they don't realize that, on this respect, they are exactly like religious people. The religious people also think that they have the solution to this universal problem. It is because they are concerned exactly like you are that they also care about the presence of their religion in the society. It is the same thing.

Atheists, don't repeat your point such as religions are fairy tales, etc. You maybe right on some things, but you might also be missing very fundamental aspects. I know that you admit that you don't have the whole truth, but the same attitude is also very strong amongst religious people. Everybody thinks he has the way, the method, etc., but not the whole truth.

Oops, that wasn't a question. Well, just take it as a request for comments.

Leviathan: You are saying that the atheist view is the way to go and that unless something fits in that view, it has no place in our common space. However, we live in the same society. We have to take decisions together.

You argue in terms of moral. A moral is a set of rules. It is not sufficient. One also needs to have the way to follow them naturally. I am a theist, but I follow no religion. My God is the ultimate reality of all the laws of nature. I don't think we need to believe in my God to act in a moral way spontaneously. It is a question of removing stresses. It is not a question of beliefs. Being close to my God is being more in accord with the laws of nature. This view of God says that the laws of nature are fully available within us. By removing stress we can take full advantage of them and we can fully appreciate their presence in our daily life.

Anyway, my point was that we all have all our views and we all care to see it as a part of the society because we care.

vorenhutz: I don't know anybody who claims to know everything, but there may be a few rare exceptions. The basic idea is still valid.

Chris: I didn't mean that you should not care about your view. I also agree that not all knowledge are as useful. Nevertheless what drives atheists is of the same nature as what drive the theists.

I do believe that some atheists are missing something very important. There is a concept of God that is just like the laws of nature, except that the laws of nature are too often considered outside of us and only accessible through material technologies,.not something available within us, not something that we can appreciate more and more in our daily life simply by removing stress trough an appropriate meditation.

It is all within science. The benefits on health, etc. can be measured. The mechanisms in terms of global coherence of the brain is more and more understood. We could not mention God to explain it, but it doesn't work because of the historical aspects. So, I don't hide it at all. Besides, the connection with religions is not bad. It is the same God, but seen through science.

For concreteness, I have to say that the meditation I refer above is transcendental meditation. I have to say it because otherwise it makes no sense at all. Not all meditations work the same way. For example, what I am saying above makes no sense at all for a meditation where you just think about God.

Errata: The sentence "We could not mention God to explain it, but it doesn't work because of the historical aspects." wasn't clear at all. I meant to say "We can totally explain it without mentioning God, but the connection with God will be there anyway because of the history of the techniques."

Answer 1

lol

I do not think I have the whole truth; I do not want everyone to have my unique perspective on everything, if that were even possible. What a boring and dangerous environment such uniformity would be! Diversity of opinion is HELPFUL, and beautiful, and natural... Desiring conformity is sadly shortsighted and against everyone's real interests, because it denies our intelligence and individual perspectives, which in any situation improves ALL of our chances to get better answers.

Answer 2

To an extent, I agree with you, but to place a knowledge that is based on what you are told on par with a knowledge that has been experimentally arrived at is morally reprehensible. I realize that we can't empirically prove or disprove god, but in the world that we live in, this unverifiable god is frequently used as justification for the vilest acts imaginable. To claim that their motivation for murder is equivalent to an atheist's motivation to shake someone's faith isn't just wrong, its *wrong*. Not all knowledge is equal, and truth is just that. It is not subjective, or else it is an interpretation.

Answer 3

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Answer 4

i would prefer that people agree with me than not, but i don't really NEED them to agree with me on everything. it is enough if they tolerate me enough to respect my right to have an opinion... and honestly one might suspect that you're trying to suggest that atheists should not forthrightly state their opinion.

"Everybody thinks he has the way, the method, etc., but not the whole truth."

even the ones who claim to know everything?

Answer 5

What drivel.

Religion isn't needed for morality, so what good is it? Its time for humanity to put away its superstitions just as a child puts aways stories of talking ducks at a certain age.

Answer 6

Our views should reflect the views of God's word, Not our understanding but God's understanding, what He says in his word.

Answer 7

You make sense on both side,s if they will have it.