The reasons why that very well be the case are
here, probably still at or near the top of the page:
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com
What do YOU think?
2007-10-07 08:29:57 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
To "John D. Ayer" -- So I guess this means that you did NOT read the article, huh?
2007-10-07 08:38:22 · update #1
To "Pastor Art" -- So you didn't read the article either, eh?
2007-10-07 08:54:26 · update #2
To "Dee Emarr" -- You are most welcome! I'm glad you liked it.
2007-10-07 10:24:46 · update #3
To "BC" -- This may come as a disapointment to you, but there is not one iota of disinformation on any of my sites.
The Bible is FILLED with PROOF that God already knows the furure. Such as all of those OT prophecies that came to pass (100%) even though most could not have been self-fulfilling.
But the BEST proof is in th NT, where Jesus either took John of Patmos onto the future where he could witness the End Times in person, or He gave him a perfect vision of them. God certainly can fine-tune things as they go along (or few prayers would get answered... but He also CAN see the future. Perfectly clearly!
We DO go to heaven. Unless you choose to call Jesus a liar. John 14:2-3 --
"In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."
2007-10-07 12:32:13 · update #4
Murder applies ONLY to **people**. Not RPEs. Not ants. Not cows. No wonder you didn't want to discuss that further! Since it has NOTHING to do with Reproductive-Process Entities.
Back to the drawing board for you.
2007-10-07 12:36:20 · update #5
HOLY CRAP!!!
a Christian blog i agree with! this is amazing!
I'll definitely remember this. thank you so much.
2007-10-07 09:13:04 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Considering how many babies he murdered during the Deluge, not to mention all the people he offed during the many plagues he set upon the Earth, Jehovah has no right to get all self-righteous and *ahem* godly over the abortion issue...
(Just yanking the chains of all you zealots who give this a thumbs down...)
2007-10-07 15:40:56 · answer #2 · answered by crypto_the_unknown 4 · 4⤊ 0⤋
I wonder how anyone can honestly read Exodus chapter 21 and not believe that the unborn baby is not a "life".
The penalty for killing the life of an unborn baby is to be put to death. If that does not declare that the unborn is a "life" and has value, I don't know what does.
Here is what Exodus 21 says:
22 "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely [e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Verse 23 says it all. Read it.
Pastor Art
2007-10-07 15:49:55 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
There are several fatal flaws to the premises of that article. For a site that claims to "REFUTE disinformation," it should be more careful of facts and speculation. Instead, this article advances disinformation!
For one, the Bible does not teach that God knows everything that will happen to the finest detail. Rather, it states that he BRINGS it about -- that is, he directs the future to be in accord with his plans.
"Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times things that are not yet done, Saying, 'My counsel shall stand, And I will do all My pleasure,' 11 Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I HAVE SPOKEN IT; I WILL ALSO BRING IT TO PASS. I HAVE PURPOSED IT; I WILL ALSO DO IT. 12 "Listen to Me, you stubborn-hearted, Who are far from righteousness" (Isaiah 46:9-12 {Especially verse 11})
And, His inspired Word states:
"I returned and saw under the sun that-- The race is not to the swift, Nor the battle to the strong, Nor bread to the wise, Nor riches to men of understanding, Nor favor to men of skill; But TIME AND CHANCE HAPPEN TO THEM ALL" (Ecclesiastes 9:11).
How can such a statement be compatible with every detail preordained?
God isn't an impotent bystander of creation; he is its director; he makes it happen. He doesn't KNOW what will be; he KNOWS what he will DO!
In regards to applying the special circumstances of Jeremiah to everyone...
Jeremiah 1:5 -- "Before I formed you in the womb I knew YOU; Before YOU were born I sanctified YOU; I ordained YOU a prophet to the nations."
As the article states, Jeremiah was a "particular case." So, applying the attributes of a "particular case" in general is illogical and erroneous -- DISinformation. Though there have been a handful of people that God preordained, that in no wise can be applied carte blanche. Rather, God calls it out because it is special -- Jeremiah had a special commission very different from other prophets. And so, God had very specific plans for him before he was ever born.
Another erroneous supposition is that aborted infants go to heaven without being judged, or that ANYBODY has gone to heaven other than he who came from heaven. The Bible NOWHERE says that people will go to heaven when they die. This too is disinformation derived from MISunderstanding the Words of God.
"...neither He [God] nor Jesus ever said so much as one single word against abortion in the Bible?" Try again. If you blind yourself by only looking for the word 'abortion' in the Bible, you are using dishonest weights and scales.
Baker's Evangelical Dictionary of Biblical Theology has:
"But even if Exodus 21 is taken to grant the mother more protection than her unborn child, it also establishes that causing the death of the unborn, even accidentally, is morally culpable. Plainly, no authority to perform abortion is granted" (article: Abortion; http://bible.crosswalk.com/Dictionaries/BakersEvangelicalDictionary/bed.cgi?number=T5).
And reading Exodus 23:26 {There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: the number of thy days I will fulfil.}, where God describes the blessings of a righteous society, the phrase 'cast their young' can mean either involuntary (miscarriage) or voluntary (abortion) termination of pregnancy -- RPE's included.
"(For anyone who's thinking about "Thou shalt not kill," at this point, I caution you against stepping on any ants!" A flippant and callous comment that reeks of misunderstanding. I'll not even get into this here!
In summary, your article in NO WISE expresses a WIN-WIN-WIN situation. It is a LOSE-LOSE-LOSE proposition. And it is yet another abhorrent attempt to justify MURDER! and shun responsibility.
2007-10-07 18:11:51 · answer #4 · answered by BC 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Yes I agree. And God knows each and everyone of us as well as Jeremiah. For man to intervene in the life of an unborn child and end that life before it has a chance to live its life is robbing God. Like when Sarah gave Abraham her handmaiden instead of trusting in God's abilities as a Divine Creator and loving God.
2007-10-07 15:42:18 · answer #5 · answered by Timothy J 2 · 0⤊ 3⤋
Having spent time in a country with unsafe, illegal and inaccessible abortion, ANYTHING's an improvement.
CD
2007-10-07 15:41:38 · answer #6 · answered by Super Atheist 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
if an omnipotent god actually exists, it makes more sense than licencing a bunch of surrogate know-it-alls who cannot spell or speak coherently to do his/her/its will.
2007-10-07 15:34:59 · answer #7 · answered by kent_shakespear 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The Bible makes it very plain that abortion is a sin. You cannot have or cause an abortion and "win" without understanding that abortion is a mistake to be learned from.
2007-10-07 15:34:27 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 4⤋