Jesus told us the truth but do you refuse to listen?

Question

At the last supper Jesus sat down with his Apostles and said, "This is My body, " not This only represents my body. Or This only symbolizes my body, but he said "THIS IS MY BODY." Why do you refuse to believe what Jesus said?

The Scripture does not give the Reformation theories. It only gives the words of Jesus. THIS IS MY BODY so please don't give Calvinistic stupidity.

See how hypercritical you are, Jesus said - but you do not listen yet you say you believe in the bible. Refer to the Catechism of the Catholic Church for the true answer.

Answer 1

Jesus commanded his followers to kill people. There's no need to listen to anything else he allegedly said.

Answer 2

So, when Jesus said:

Joh 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in, and will go out, and will find pasture.

Did He mean He had hinges and a handle?
It is obvious that the bread could not physically be His body since His body was holding it. Can't you see how silly this argument is?
I tend to think He was referencing the Passover lamb, which was called "the body of the lamb", which was eaten at the Passover.

(1)"And now it is, as if Christ had said, you have had "the body" of the lamb set before you, and have eaten of it, in commemoration of the deliverance out of Egypt, and as a type of me the true passover, quickly to be sacrificed; and this rite of eating the body of the paschal lamb is now to cease; and I do here by this bread, in an emblematical way, set before you "my body", which is to be given to obtain spiritual deliverance, and eternal redemption for you; in remembrance of which, you, and all my followers in successive generations, are to take and eat of it, till I come. The words, "take, eat", show that Christ did not put the bread into the mouths of the disciples, but they took it in their hands, and ate it; expressive of taking and receiving Christ by the hand of faith, and feeding on him in a spiritual manner, "

Answer 3

The observe translated "church" in the passage is ekklesias. it incredibly is synonymous with synagogue, in fact, James makes use of "synagogue" whilst he's clearly conversing of a Christian assembly. In any journey, it incredibly is people, not A construction OR some company. Your question does not make sense, in what way is this team of people "invisible?" The catholic "church" ceased to be the actual CHURCH whilst they forsook certainty for pagan lies. maximum each and every thing they do violates scripture, yet they declare that the church has the main suitable to alter or set aside scripture, an actual no human grew to become into ever given. Luther meant to hold catholics decrease back to the reality. He insisted that no person ever call themselves "Lutheran" yet grew to become into disregarded in that factor after his loss of life. Jesus did not come to create a regularly pagan broken former church. He did not come to create a team of denominations. the two ARE incorrect! Christians must be in basic terms that, CHRISTIANS. they should save on with SCRIPTURE, not HUMAN custom.

Answer 4

Okay, Jesus did not tell the truth, at least not to me. I've heard what he's been quoted as saying, but the sources are biased and very unreliable.
Until you can actually prove God, prove the legitimacy of his authorship of the bible, and provide some kind of corroborating evidence that he bore a son to a virgin a few thousand years ago, I'm going to have to ask you to stop insisting that the unsubstantiated views expressed in the bible actually fall under the category of truth.

Answer 5

Those who comment on John 6 also assert that one can show Christ was speaking only metaphorically by comparing verses like John 10:9 ("I am the door") and John 15:1 ("I am the true vine"). The problem is that there is not a connection to John 6:35, "I am the bread of life." "I am the door" and "I am the vine" make sense as metaphors because Christ is like a door—we go to heaven through him—and he is also like a vine—we get our spiritual sap through him. But Christ takes John 6:35 far beyond symbolism by saying, "For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed" (John 6:55).

He continues: "As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me" (John 6:57). The Greek word used for "eats" (trogon) is very blunt and has the sense of "chewing" or "gnawing." This is not the language of metaphor.

For fundamentalists, the scriptural argument is capped by an appeal to John 6:63: "It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." They say this means that eating real flesh is a waste. But does this make sense?

Are we to understand that Christ had just commanded his disciples to eat his flesh, then said their doing so would be pointless? Is that what "the flesh is of no avail" means? "Eat my flesh, but you’ll find it’s a waste of time"—is that what he was saying? Hardly.

The fact is that Christ’s flesh avails much! If it were of no avail, then the Son of God incarnated for no reason, he died for no reason, and he rose from the dead for no reason. Christ’s flesh profits us more than anyone else’s in the world. If it profits us nothing, so that the incarnation, death, and resurrection of Christ are of no avail, then "your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished" (1 Cor. 15:17b–18).

In John 6:63 "flesh profits nothing" refers to mankind’s inclination to think using only what their natural human reason would tell them rather than what God would tell them. Thus in John 8:15–16 Jesus tells his opponents: "You judge according to the flesh, I judge no one. Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone that judge, but I and he who sent me." So natural human judgment, unaided by God’s grace, is unreliable; but God’s judgment is always true.

And were the disciples to understand the line "The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life" as nothing but a circumlocution (and a very clumsy one at that) for "symbolic"? No one can come up with such interpretations unless he first holds to the Fundamentalist position and thinks it necessary to find a rationale, no matter how forced, for evading the Catholic interpretation. In John 6:63 "flesh" does not refer to Christ’s own flesh—the context makes this clear—but to mankind’s inclination to think on a natural, human level. "The words I have spoken to you are spirit" does not mean "What I have just said is symbolic." The word "spirit" is never used that way in the Bible. The line means that what Christ has said will be understood only through faith; only by the power of the Spirit and the drawing of the Father (cf. John 6:37, 44–45, 65).



I feel sorry for those who have watered down the gospel and promoted false teachings and false assurances.

Answer 6

i have no clue where you are going with this,

however, that was a traditional wedding remark that Jesus was giving. the young man would be making a covenant with his new wife to love and protect her.

now that we have that out of the way, what are you getting at, or where are you going with this.


the christian knows this was Jesus making a covenant with those who would belive in him to deliver them from sin and into righteousness.

Abraham and the LORD had the animals halved and God alone in the form of a fire passed between the animals, symbolic of a unilateral agreement between God to be faithful when the decendants of Abraham would not be.

i bet you were not expecting this curve ball

Answer 7

Just becuase someone one says something, doesn't mean its true. You should know this already, and I'm not sure why you think Jesus is an exception. Perhaps its because you believed him when he said he was divine, but then it's still true that people don't always tell the truth.

I'm not determining whether he was lying or not, just that some people may think he did and others may think he didn't.

Answer 8

The only ones that know what was said at the last supper would have had to be those attending.So how do we know if he told us any thing important at all. It just may have been his last dinner he had before he was killed ,and said nothing as he was only hungry and did not know that later he would not have any more chances to speak.

Answer 9

There are times that people need to learn that a "strict literal interpretation" is NOT what the author intended.

It would seem OBVIOUS that a piece of bread was NOT a piece of the actual physical body of Christ. It was then, and is now, a representation. An article of faith.

Answer 10

Yes this is why some disciples and the pharisee's walked away . Jesus was not speaking a parable this time

John 6:50This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

58This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

59These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.

60Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

61When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

62What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

63It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

64But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.

65And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

66From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

Answer 11

Jesus was a man(and of course the son of God) but do people always mean exactly what the say? I'm sure he meant this represents my body. although you are free to interpret it how you wish.