Grab six or seven dice and roll them at the same time. Will they come up the same? Probably not, but if you roll them over and over eventually they will, even if it takes years, and when they do, it will look like a pattern but really, it is just chance. Can't people see at least the possibility that over billions and billions of years, the universe could settle down in what seems like a pattern but is really chance? Given that much time? I'm not trying to convert anybody to anything, I'm just trying to get someone to see that an orderly universe happening by chance is not that unrealistic given the time frame we are talking about.
2007-10-07
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mighty.macabros: It is still expanding. Edwin Hubble's discovery of the expansion is what led to the big bang theory in the first place.
Catholic Crusader: Read your response--your mathematical proof had no math in it at all. Besides, your Cadillac thing shows you misunderstood the question, I was talking about many, many events over a long period of time, not a single event.
PAULO: Actually, the big bang theory doesn't say the universe as we know it today happened in an instant, it says all the matter in the universe was compressed in an infinitely small space (a "singularity") and the "bang" was the event of it's release. The randomness I am talking about is the random interaction of what exploded in the first place, the particles, then molecules, then objects and so forth, randomly interacting and expanding over the long period of time since them. What my question assumes is that the big bang started it all.
2007-10-07
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cz they're used to simplified, non experimentable answers , like "god just did it ,,, and no questions over that"
2007-10-07 05:52:35
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answered by mega_mover 4
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that is actually a very interesting theory - one of the more intelligent I've read here in some time - and I have been searching for an unbeliever with a credible explanation for creation - so, thank you!
I think the fallacy of your theory however - is that most scientists even now accept the "Big Bang Theory" of the universe creation (I accept this theory as well although with the caveat of a CREATOR behind the bang!) - so that the universe couldn't have "settled down over billions of years" as you put it - since it was all created in an instant.
But very nice try!
2007-10-07 12:54:36
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answered by Anonymous
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If the universe managed to be created by chance in a sudden explosion of life and planets, shouldn't everything be speeding outward still, since space offers no resistance?
If a gradual manifest of matter into energy occur ed, what happened to spark that manifestation?
I do not know what created the universe, chance or deity, but I will not take a firm stance and say "It MUST be this, because it is slightly less ridiculous than that idea!"
2007-10-07 12:54:21
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answered by Anonymous
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So believe in evolution because of dice......??? ..........o.k then.
There is way to much evidence that evolution is not true. Take the grand canyon for instance. The rock layers did not happen over millions of years. Those layers happened VERY close together in time frame. They were made by ALOT of water really fast. A great flood maybe? Like the one described in Genesis? For evolutionists to admit that there was a great flood, it would throw out alot of their supposed evidence of evolution. Read a book!
Dice? Thats the best you could do?
2007-10-07 12:56:16
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answered by Anonymous
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Because they want to believe that they have some sort of control over what happens to them.
People want to belive the whole "god" thing because they need to know that they can somehow control what happens to them on this planet. They could never deal with the idea that a lot of stuff is random, so they create a set of guidelines that says if you behave in a certain way, bad things will not happen to you. This provides two important aspects of society. One, it keeps some people in line by controlling their behavior, and two it makes those same people feel better about having some say about their own lives. They feel better because they think that they are in control. Thats why you here people saying that so and so got cancer because she deserved it, or someone died young because they did not go to church. It helps them pretend they have some control.
And, the whole "god created the universe" is simply part of that package.
2007-10-07 12:56:45
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answered by Andrew 5
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Some people just find it comforting to think that they have a purpose, and everything around them does, that its not just some freak accident that came from billions of years of "dice rolling" (which by the way is a killer metaphor, i love it). so to explain it they believe in god or any of the religions in the world, not many of which i I'm familiar with so i wont pretend to be.
i don't know what to believe as far as this goes, whether a religion is true or there is some scientific reason to everything that happens, i know i don't have it all figured out. but you have a good point. it could very well all be a coincidence.
and i also admire that you arent trying to trash anyones opinion, but rather just simply state your own.
2007-10-07 12:56:41
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answered by Evan 6
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Because the complexity of the universe couldn't been done just by "chance". If it was as simple as you said in your example of dices, well you only have the chances of 1 to 6 and the number of dices.... life is more than just "happened by chance", I would ask you the same for human beings, do all born just because?...
2007-10-07 13:00:04
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answered by Dragonheart 4
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I think that people like to feel special and being thought of as a random occurrence doesn't sound special to them.
I have the opposite opinion, with the high improbability of life occurring in the universe, I think our existence is even more amazing.
Nature's throwing of the dice, and us as the result, is far more impressive than magic.
Pantheist
2007-10-07 17:17:19
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answered by Equinoxical ™ 5
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Given your analogy the universe could be made up of trillions of dice. What's the chance of them all rolling the same number and starting evolution?
2007-10-07 12:54:38
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answered by cheir 7
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Why is it so hard for you to believe it Did NOT happen that way....but rather there is a Creator ??
"I am fascinated by some strange developments going on in astronomy....The astronomical evidence leads to a Biblical view of the origin of the world". -- Robert Jastrow (Astomomer) and former Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies
“The more I examine the universe and the details of its architecture, the more evidence I
find that the universe in some sense must have known we were coming.” - Freeman Dyson (physicist)
Scripture says God SPOKE all things into existence with His Word:
" By the Word of the Lord were the heavens created, and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.... For HE SPAKE AND IT WAS DONE; HE COMMANDED AND IT STOOD FAST". (psalm 33:6-9)
2007-10-07 12:52:46
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answered by Anonymous
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Nothing happens by chance. From our perspective it may appear that is true, but pretty much everything happens according to physical forces and parameters.
Catholic crusaders comments are completely illogical. By his logic nobody could ever get a poker hand dealt to them because the odds of getting that particular hand are remote. Plus he has no method to calculate the stastical probability of micro-events that have happened billions of years ago.
2007-10-07 12:51:40
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answered by Anonymous
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