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Could the priest transform any material in to the body and blood of Christ? I know it's traditionally bread and wine but could it be something else?

2007-10-06 14:02:01 · 11 answers · asked by Hoolahoop 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I'd alchemy on the brain for some reason. Yes, I meant transubstantiation of course.

2007-10-06 14:10:38 · update #1

11 answers

No, in fact even the kind of bread and wine is specified.

+ The Bread +

Just like the bread Jesus used during Passover at the Last Supper, the bread used in the Eucharist is unleavened.

The General Instruction of the Roman Missal, section 320 states:

The bread for celebrating the Eucharist must be made only from wheat, must be recently baked, and, according to the ancient tradition of the Latin Church, must be unleavened.

+ The Wine +

White wine and red wine are both acceptable for the Eucharist.

The General Instruction of the Roman Missal, section 322 states:

The wine for the Eucharistic celebration must be from the fruit of the grapevine (cf. Luke 22:18), natural, and unadulterated, that is, without admixture of extraneous substances.

http://www.usccb.org/liturgy/current/chapter6.shtml

+ With love in Christ.

2007-10-06 17:45:46 · answer #1 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 0

The changing of the Bread & Wine into the Body & Blood Of Christ is called "Transubstantiation." Not "transmutation."

2007-10-06 22:33:33 · answer #2 · answered by clusium1971 7 · 1 0

Since Jesus did not just any material into His Body and Blood, priests cannot transubstantiate just any material into the Body and Blood. It is God consecrating the bread and wine through the pirests, doing what Jesus did "in rememberance of Him".

2007-10-08 12:21:30 · answer #3 · answered by Daver 7 · 0 0

OK, so you have clarified you mean transubstantiation.

Your answer is NO.

In order for the Sacrament to 'happen' you must have proper MATTER and FORM.

That means the matter MUST be bead made with ONLY flour and water, and wine from the first pressing of the grapes.
The form are the proper words of consecration and the intent of the priest.

2007-10-06 22:56:35 · answer #4 · answered by Mommy_to_seven 5 · 0 0

Nope, bread and wine only. And only bread made of wheat and water and wine made from grapes. This is done to keep the traditional bread and wine used at the last Supper, which was a Passover meal.

2007-10-06 21:16:08 · answer #5 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 2 0

No. From the beginning, the Curch set guidelines of "propers" for the Sacraments. Anything outside of these would be considered at least "irregular" - if not completely invalid.

There is a Proper Matter for every Sacrament. In the case of Holy Eucharist is is wheat bread and wine. Period. And only these elements are proper and valid.

2007-10-06 21:05:53 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

back in the old days it was done, my priests piest actually blessed beer and cigarettes, however it is no considered a heresy

and the word you are looking for is transubstantiation

2007-10-06 21:08:45 · answer #7 · answered by Adam of the wired 7 · 1 1

Actually, it's called "transubstantiation".

And no, it's just the sacrament.

2007-10-06 21:05:51 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

Transmutation of elements is interesting, you know uranium changing into lead et al.

2007-10-06 21:04:54 · answer #9 · answered by ignoramus_the_great 7 · 1 2

there iis no such thing let me explain that transubstantiation means that you eat Christs body & drink his blood that is canabalism. See what some his followers said when he first mentioned it. \
(John 6:35) . . . Jesus said to them: “I am the bread of life. He that comes to me will not get hungry at all, and he that exercises faith in me will never get thirsty at all. . .

(John 6:48-51) 48 “I am the bread of life. 49 YOUR forefathers ate the manna in the wilderness and yet died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that anyone may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven; if anyone eats of this bread he will live forever; and, for a fact, the bread that I shall give is my flesh in behalf of the life of the world.”

(John 6:52-59) 52 Therefore the Jews began contending with one another, saying: “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 Accordingly Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Unless YOU eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, YOU have no life in yourselves. 54 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I shall resurrect him at the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 He that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me forth and I live because of the Father, he also that feeds on me, even that one will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. It is not as when YOUR forefathers ate and yet died. He that feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 These things he said as he was teaching in public . . .

(John 6:60) . . .Therefore many of his disciples, when they heard this, said: “This speech is shocking; who can listen to it?. . .

So you see his followers were shocked by the thought of doing such a thing with good reasn

(John 6:66-68) 66 Owing to this many of his disciples went off to the things behind and would no longer walk with him.

67 Therefore Jesus said to the twelve: “YOU do not want to go also, do YOU?” 68 Simon Peter answered him: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life;

(Matthew 26:26-28) . . .As they continued eating, Jesus took a loaf and, after saying a blessing, he broke it and, giving it to the disciples, he said: “TAKE, eat. THIS MEANS MY BODY.” 27 Also, he took a cup and, having given thanks, he gave it to them, saying: “Drink out of it, all of YOU; 28 FOR THIS MEANS MY ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins. . .

(1 Corinthians 11:23-26) . . .For I received from the Lord that which I also handed on to YOU, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was going to be handed over took a loaf 24 and, after giving thanks, he broke it and said: “This means my body which is in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 25 He did likewise respecting the cup also, after he had the evening meal, saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood. Keep doing this, as often as YOU drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For as often as YOU eat this loaf and drink this cup, YOU keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives.

Now these are the scriptures that show that the BREAD & WINE WERE SYMBOLIC

2007-10-06 21:08:24 · answer #10 · answered by zorrro857 4 · 1 3

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