I had a muslim try to quote John chapter 8 where Jesus told the mob holding the adulterous woman that whoever is without sin was to throw the first stone. His argument was that because Jesus didn't throw any stone he deduced that Jesus therefore was sinful. Has anyone else been bothered by this guy ?
2007-10-06 11:26:35 · 16 answers · asked by Andy 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Some people are just dispirit and need to find fault in other peoples religion. I think it is because they need to Validate their own beliefs. I just walk away from people like that, its a waist of time to explain your point of view!
2007-10-06 11:31:52 · answer #1 · answered by DrMichael 7 · 5⤊ 0⤋
Well, if Original Sin holds then all humans, Jesus included, inherit the sins of Eden. But that aside, one could argue that to not throw the stone would have been to break the laws of Leviticus.
The thing about saying Jesus is sinless originates from the fact that we use Jesus in our understanding of what Sin is. It is impossible for someone who takes Jesus as a moral standpoint to find sin in what Jesus did, because if he did it then it would no longer be sinful.
On the other hand, it would certainly have been the viewpoint of the Jewish people that Jesus was behaving in a way that contravenes the law of God. Similarly, anyone else who has an understanding of what God's law is may apply it individually to Jesus and assign him a judgement according to their system.
The basic point is that no individual human being can individually decide what is sinful and what is in line with the objective morality. This is as true of me and the Muslim as it is of the leaders and members of Christianity. At least, that's what I think.
2007-10-06 11:37:09 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The problem is, whatever you want to prove, you almost always can, if you know where to look in the bible.
Jesus was put in mortal flesh. I've never heard that he was sinful but as human, you get tired, you get discouraged, you get depressed among other things.
If this was the case, who's to say this wasn't want anyone else in that time went through, be it dispair, anger, or whatever.
I don't know what guy you're talking about, but it sounds like he's trying to make cracks and hammer them into divisions within the community.
I'd ask him the same question, "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."
2007-10-06 11:33:54 · answer #3 · answered by rann_georgia 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No I've never been asked this. My take on it is - Jesus was God in the flesh - God knows no sin.
God turned away from Jesus when He took our sin upon Him on the cross - when He said to His Father --
"why have you forsaken me" - because God cannot look upon sin - but up until that point - Jesus was the perfect sinless offering - if not - salvation has no meaning - and we know our salvation is real.
Edit; If i can just add - Millie - the anger Jesus felt at His Fathers house been used for selling - or as "den of thieves" as Jesus said - was righteous anger - the anger of Almighty God was operating in Him at this time - it's intercession in other words - so therefore was not sin.
2007-10-06 15:26:36 · answer #4 · answered by ;) 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
"He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her"
Was Jesus talking to Himself? He was talking to the people around Him. Knowing they have sinned. He himself did not throw the stone because He loves her, and He knew that she would see that love if He did not throw the stone.
Jesus knew His time to judge had not yet come. He will juged on the one day that calls for judging. He came to the earth back in the day to be the one hit by the stone, not the one to throw it. But soon, He will be the one to throw the stone, trust me, its writen in Rev, and Matthew 24 and Luke 21.
2007-10-06 11:39:10 · answer #5 · answered by ? 1 · 4⤊ 0⤋
When Jesus whipped the merchants out of the temple, he was enraged, and rage is a sin.
When Jesus said: "Father why hast thou forsaken me?", he doubted, and that's a sin.
It shows that your Muslim friend doesn't know what he is talking about. If they don't even know their own religion (if they do, why do they accept and condone murder-homicides), how do you expect them to know anything about Christianity.
2007-10-06 11:54:55 · answer #6 · answered by Millie 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I always was taught that Jesus was capable of sin. He was a human after all. No offense to anyone.
2007-10-06 11:31:20 · answer #7 · answered by Frank B 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
That account is not found In earlier biblical manuscripts.
2007-10-06 11:47:09 · answer #8 · answered by conundrum 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
that sounds pretty clever
but the way the bible tells it, its almost impossible to live life without sin, so i wouldnt doubt jesus had sin
2007-10-06 11:28:42 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
I have to admit, I never heard that one before.
It never ceases to amaze me, the junk people come up with...
2007-10-06 11:42:44 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋