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2007-10-06 08:16:14 · 10 answers · asked by keny 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

then many Orthodox Jews must also be antiSemitic

2007-10-06 10:44:43 · update #1

http://www.israelversusjudaism.org/oppression/index.cfm

2007-10-06 11:27:58 · update #2

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6171503.stm

2007-10-06 11:39:54 · update #3

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It's not anti semitic. i have some jewish acquaintances but i'm totally against zionism. a lot of Jews like to victimize themselves and exploit things like the Holocaust. Orthodox Jews--many of them-- are against Zionism and the state of Israel. What are they then? self-haters?? people need to get a grip.

2007-10-06 21:06:11 · answer #1 · answered by ♥M♥ 2 · 2 1

Hmm... I just read one of the answers and am going to offer my two cents worth. I think there is a very real difference between offering a critical comment and bashing an entire culture/religion.

I think some people see any sort of critical comment as a massive put down which includes everyone and everything, past, present and future. This is not the case. The members of very culture does things/says things/espouses things that need to be questioned. How else do we learn? How else do we understand what is being said?

I am First Nations. I am critical of the way my Band allocates educational funding. I am critical that my leaders walk does not match their talk. I am critical of the way Traditional philosophies and tenets have been perverted to justify political means.

This does not mean that I am anti-First Nations. It means I have an opinion and ask critical questions hoping for clarification, or that what I ask will cause others to help me institute change. There is some form of seperation between the religious beliefs and cultural beliefs of any group of people. Very often the two are confused, especially when people don't listen to each other. Add politics into the mixture and even less people actually listen to each other.

2007-10-06 15:46:20 · answer #2 · answered by Mikisew 6 · 2 0

I saw many fruity persons posting answers and I think to myself what a wonderful world... how amazing, pure or indoctrinated are some of us.
I know that it’s hard to recognize the rights and opinions of other inhabitants of this space's piece of dirt that we call Earth, but it’s important to do so.
Historically the Zionism movement was a movement of those that wanted liberty and land for the Israeli tribes in the tensioned times that followed the beginnings of their ethno-genesis. The movement had different names during many centuries but the reasons where unchanged. According to the Bible the first Israeli institution was the Council of the Elders, strengthened after the biblical exodus by the powerful leading of Moses and his brother Aaron. Around 1000 B.C. David conquers the Ebuseean fortress on Mount Zion and starts building Jerusalem. So the new found capital becomes the focal point of Israeli stately evolution. The Council of the Elders moves to Mount Zion and takes the name of the place… so we have now the Elders of Zion. The years that followed the Council was transformed in the institution called Sanhedrin (formed by two parties/ 70+1 members/that served as tribunal and as parliament to the Israeli people). The Elders of Zion have resisted so many centuries and today they are still leading from behind the curtains the actions of the “Chosen People of Israel”.
I don’t know if they are good or evil but I know they can sacrifice all in order to accomplish their legacy… that of creating a powerful state in order to receive the coming of Meshaia (the Savior) and finish their God given journey.
It’s easier for them to do their job in silence … so if you say something true, about them or about others that think like them, and they are offended you are catalogued as an Anti-Semitic. Even if you are showing some documented awful things about them to the world you are treated with this sorrow appellative. They forget that during their restless history the Semitic tribes where the most anti-Semitic groups of all… see the many fratricide incidents and many large scale human sacrifices for political, military or theological reasons (so criticized today). “Hommo hominem lupus”(Man is wolf to the Man).

2007-10-07 15:38:18 · answer #3 · answered by (ro)Bulldog 2 · 0 0

Because that's exactly what it is. Would you say the same for Native Americans who wanted their land back? Or any other tribal people who had been invaded and their land stolen, their people scattered to the four winds? Remember, however, that the Tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and some of Dan and others never left the area. There has been a continuous Jewish presence in the land for almost 4000 years. That's millennia before Islam even existed.

Anti-Zionism is the new Anti-Semitism, it just hides behind political motives is all. It's become politically correct (and a vicious Arab lie) to be against Zionism but say you're "ok with Jews".

Here is some further reading on it if you're really interested:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/288...
http://www.newantisemitism.org/...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...
http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/21832.html...

No, not many Orthodox Jews are antisemetic. A small group known as Neturi Karta are against the Jews who re-established the State of Israel, because these Jews refused to help the Jews of Hungary when they were being deported and murdered at the end of the war. The Jewish leaders who were already in Israel at that time said they would not help, instead they needed to concentrate on getting the Jewish state of Israel back on its feet.

For this reason, the small group of Orthodox Jews called the Neturi Karta hate the Jews that re-established the State of Israel, including in recent times going to shake the hand of the President of Iran who said that Israel (and the Jews in it) need to be wiped off the map.

The Neturi Karta Jews are EXTREMELY antisemetic. Yes. By shaking hands with those who hate Jews and want Jews dead, the Neturi Karta are no better than Jew killers themselves, and they do not care.

The land of Israel cannot be separated from the Jewish people. It is our homeland, it is our spiritual land. Many of our laws and customs cannot be carried out anywhere else. The Land of Israel is home for our souls, and no one has the right to try to separate that from being Jewish. It cannot be separated, and we will not allow it. M'kay? And that includes by antisemetic non-Jews and antisemetic Jews, both. Thankfully, antisemetic Jews are such a small group that they don't really matter. It's the rest of you that need to understand that we will never give up our land, our spiritual home, that it is a part of what makes us Jews. Jerusalem is mentioned in the Torah hundreds of times. Not once in the Koran. It is ours, it is the home of our souls, and our hearts. Not for Muslims, who hate it and destroy it, and do not want it except to keep it away from us, and to tear up the tombs of our ancestors and deny we were ever there.

Anti-Zionism is Antisemitism, it is like taking Mecca away from the Muslims. If you can't understand that, then your brain is apparently deficient somehow.

2007-10-06 15:22:33 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

The IMPORTANT Difference Between Judaism and Militant Zionism


http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html

http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/judaism_isnot_zionism.cfm


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2007-10-06 15:18:01 · answer #5 · answered by kloneme 3 · 0 1

Christians and Jews believ they are the promised children of God and that if you criticize one you criticize both. If you do not kiss a Jew's ***, then you are antisemitic, after all, you should know that they are God's people just by looking at them!

2007-10-06 17:21:45 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Because Zionists are Jews too.

2007-10-07 04:23:47 · answer #7 · answered by Maxi Robespierre 5 · 0 0

Being anti Zion is being antichrist / antisemetic.

Being violent is either being violent to harm others or to be violent to save others. Terrorist are violent to destroy. Our military is violent against the terrorist to save people. So? Which violent action is right?

2007-10-06 15:57:16 · answer #8 · answered by t a m i l 6 · 4 1

well, it is easier than trying to listen to the what they are saying and give a good response....

2007-10-06 16:15:15 · answer #9 · answered by Daniel F 6 · 1 0

If you are not for it then you must be 'aginit'!

2007-10-06 15:20:36 · answer #10 · answered by dot&carryone. 7 · 0 1

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