How many Christians here believe that Catholics aren't 'saved'?

Question

I read those words from a Christian today, and wasn't aware of that belief. Doesn;t that mean that Catholics inclusing the Pope will be going to a place you call 'hell', according to the Christian faith?

(agnostic)

*including* the Pope, sorry.

RJhd2: If you think my question doesn't make sense then you are right. Consider the source. You don;t make sense to me either, LOL!

No offense, I just don't understand all the Catholic/Christian/Protestant/Sunni/Shiite/Caste bla bla bla religious stuff.

It's not like people have wars over the best way to make a souffle or the which chemical compound is the best one to strengthen steel etc...

UPDATE: So now you find ME 'morally wrong' for questioning your statements about each other. That is such a sly move I can only give you ten points for vulpine skill.

Answer 1

Isn't a better question, "Who can pronounce someone saved?"

If salvation has something to do with the heart, then who can see the change in the heart to pronounce a person saved?

I worked with a company called Jews for Jesus. They would go up to complete strangers on the street of a major city and ask two yes or no questions. If they answered yes to both questions and would repeat the words of a prayer, they were said to be "saved."

The gospel presentation and collecting of information took all of 5 minutes. If it took longer, they were instructed to move on. So about 50 people claimed to "save" about 2,500 people each year in NYC.

Do you think 2,500 people were saved? If you haven't read about the rapid growth of the churches in the area, you might want to consider what constitutes a person being "saved" really is as the Jews for Jesus example brings to light.

Once the question about pronouncing a person as "saved" is addressed, then you can ask if the pope or priest of preacher or pastor or anyone else can accurately declare if another person is indeed "saved."

When I baptize, my authority to do some comes from my witness to the person's profession of faith. As a new born babe in Christ, I can not expect them to live a Christian life. Oh yeah, and find me a Bible passage where upon baptism, someone was pronounced being "saved."

Answer 2

That's a very wrong and dangerous belief that some very arrogant fundamentalists believe.

I used to be Methodist and converted to Catholicism 10 years ago. I can tell you that the Catholic Church has so much depth to it's relationship with Christ that most fundamentalists would awed if they had even an inkling of understanding.

Catholics are definitely saved Christians. No doubt about it. The misunderstandings of their beliefs and practices comes from a superficial and worldly meaning being given to something that is powerfully personal and spiritual. Those standing on the outside looking in, cannot hope to grasp the love for Christ that Catholics share. They see that Church as rules and false beliefs, but this is caused by extreme ignorance and a desire to be spiritually better than others. Those people have their own issues and God will deal with them.

Catholics are Christians and saved by the blood of Christ.

Answer 3

If you read the whole Bible, as do Catholics, you don't find any indication that there is ONE thing you do that makes you saved forever.

Rather, Jesus described a number of responses to God's love that constitute a Christian life: baptism (Mark 16:16; John 3:5), believing Christ and putting faith in him (e.g., Luke 7:50, 8:12), self-renunciation (e.g., Matt 5:3, 10), repentance (Matt 3:2; 4:17; 18:8-9; Mark 9:42-48), obedience to God, doing what is right and just (e.g., Luke 10:25-28; John 12:50), adopting the humility of a child (Matt 18:3-4; 19:14), eating the bread of life (John 6:51, 53-54), and endurance to the end (Matt 10:22, 24:13; Mark 13:13, Luke 21:16-18).

The need to endure to the end is contrary to the notion of a single saving experience that gives you a guarantee of heaven. Only those who stick with Jesus until death are finally, irrevocably saved.

"Are you saved?" The Catholic answers, "As the Bible says, I am being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like St. Paul, I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with confidence in the saving promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."

Cheers,
Bruce

Answer 4

As Catholic Christians we know that salvation involves more then just believing in God. salvation is an on going process that is worked on daily, not just one time and thinking we are saved for eternity without ever seeking forgiveness. Catholics know that salvation is only thru Jesus Christ and that Christ will never take that gift of salvation from us, but we also know that we can reject it or turn our backs on it.

"As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."

Answer 5

I believe there are saved people in all types of religions. To say that the Catholics are not saved is wrong. Nobody knows your real heart. Just as there are also people in every religion that are not truly saved. The only ones who do not have a chance at being saved, are the ones who simply do not believe. And even with them, it is never to late until it is over!

Answer 6

i've got faith catholics are Christian via fact that they settle for Jesus Christ! My mum is catholic and he or she has an relatively great family participants in comparison to my dad so maximum my family participants is catholic. i'm a non-denominational Christian and became pondering becoming to be catholic yet then i found out staying non-denominational is the suitable for me.

Answer 7

Sadly I'm one who believes the majority of Catholics are not saved. They seem to hold to religion rather than faith in Jesus Christ. Ask any Catholic is they are saved and they will answer either; I won't know till I'm judged or; well! I'm a conformed Catholic. neither of these answers are correct.
The Bible is clear on this issue. Jesus said in John 3 that we must be born again. being born again means we must experience a spiritual birth. The Catholic Church actually has no right to exist as The "rock" Jesus was referring to was Himself and not Peter as the catholics claim. The catholic church is the greatest farce on the face of the earth and the Lord knows it. That's why the Lord will destroy the Catholic church during the great tribulation for the reasons given in Revelation Ch. 17 V1-9. the Lord calls it an abomination and mother of harlots. read it and see!

Answer 8

It's sad to see so much hate on this question board. Any question that furthers hate is morally wrong. It doesn't matter what demonation of christian you are. If God is all forgiving as all denominations believe, why does this stupid question even have to be asked? Jesus even warns about extremest beliefs in the bible. If you think you are right and everyone else is wrong, probably it is you in the wrong. I think a lot of stupid people are going to be suprised at the pearly gates.
ALL CHRISTIANS GO TO THE SAME HEAVEN.

WILL YOU BE WELCOME?

OR WILL YOUR HATE AND IGNORANCE SEND YOU ELSEWHERE?

STOP THE HATE.

Answer 9

You're asking a question that doesn't make sense. Thats like asking a Marine if he/she believes sailors in the Navy are considered military.
Beyond that, its not like most of these "diet christians" even realize that "being saved" is technically NOT a biblical dogma, nor is it even implied that salvation is guaranteed to the unrepentant.

Answer 10

First, you should ask the Catholic if they believe they are saved.
Typical Vatican Roman Catholic doctrine says it's impossible to know if you are saved or not until you die.
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One of the main reasons the reformer, Martin Luther left Catholicism is the Vatican couldn't ensure him of salvation. As a Catholic he was stunned that he couldn't get any assurance of whether he'd end up in hell or heaven from the Catholicism of his day...I'm not a huge Luther fan at all, but
I think he was right to be concerned.
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Contrast the following Bibical Scripture from the New American Bible (Catholic Bible) with Vatican Roman Catholic doctrine. You'll see immediately the Bible does say salvation is past tense in some regards and it is possible to know salvation--

Ephesians 2:4-9 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of the great love he had for us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, brought us to life with Christ (1 )(by grace you have been saved), 6 raised us up with him, and seated us with him in the heavens in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God; 9 it is not from works, so no one may boast.

(This Scripture by the way was taken from a CATHOLIC Bible, not Protestant)