Is a police state inching its way toward America? U.K.?

Question

- Aside from the unjustified taser incidents there seems to be something else brewing
-"Peaceful onlookers were arrested by police for reading the Constitution while a pro-war group was allowed full freedom of speech in Washington DC.Police are required to swear an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution but this didn't stop them from kidnapping members of the Code Pink group, who gathered on a nearby sidewalk to calmly express their disagreement with a Neo-Con pro-war event taking place nearby by reading the bill of rights. Five members of Code Pink were arrested, one for reading the Constitution, as police refused to say what the charges were and refused to answer any questions while demonstrators were hauled into paddy wagons.
-In Britain,a woman was questioned by police and entered into the anti-terror database for reading a mainstream newspaper that had an anti-war headline.In 05, a woman was arrested & convicted for reading out names of British soldiers killed in Iraq"

http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=4416

There's more examples but the theme is the same. Is the police state coming?

Answer 1

Does this sound like what's going on?
It's the 14 steps to Fascism.

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. From the prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. Ruling elites always identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations, and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.
5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic.
6. A controlled mass media. Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats.
7. Obsession with national security. Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion.
9. Power of corporations protected. Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts. Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal
12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Most of these regimes maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked power, leading to rampant abuse. “Normal” and political crime were often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of criminals or “traitors” was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources.
14. Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

Answer 2

Unjustified, you're kidding right? Of all the possible scenarios that one was the least harsh. It was better than an old fashion butt whipping with a night stick and a whole lot better than being shot with a real bullet. The guy was resisting arrest, causing a disturbance, disorderly conduct, those cops had every reason to taze the stupid SOB and gave him multiple chance to avoid it. And NO we aren't heading for a police state in the US can't answer about the UK though.

Answer 3

All over the world with total slavery and mind control.

Answer 4

I started to write an answer and I knew that they will be reading it so I erased it. I can send you a reply via email. THKS

Answer 5

As long as the Republicans stay in power yes.

Answer 6

Not yet but it is close.
Here in the US Bush is waiting(and hoping) for another "terrorist" attack so he can declare Martial law!

Answer 7

Is the Police State coming?

I'd humbly submit that for some of us, it's already here.

--If you are poor and out of work for any reason--even if your job was outsourced through no fault of your own--you nearly live in a police state already.

--If you have a legitimate mental illness in America and *have to* use public assistance for some of your needs, the police state is already here. People already know too much and share too much, in general, in terms of "who is a mope" and who isn't, and in my experience, there is a *lot* going on in terms of targeted harrassment, both informally and socially, and formally on the level of companies and institutions.

And this doesn't even cover things like income cliffing, or "white flight" (deliberate tax base erosion) that have been major dysfunctions of the system for decades.

--If you live in a neighborhood or area where it's *likely* that you are too poor to afford a lawyer, you will be much more likely to be "dealt with" forcibly by police, up to and including excessive tasering and shootings. This includes poor neighborhoods, public housing, anywhere near a homeless shelter, and so on....

See a pattern here? Let's just add a couple more points to the trend shall we?

--If you have a prior record of substance abuse and *are NOT* from a filthy rich family, you will be added to the same sort of blacklist the *mopes* are and treated much the same way. In my prior experience in *working for* the local Mental Health Center to co-manage a drop-in center, this trend, of lumping substance abusers in with mentally ill people, and *deliberately* confusing addiction with legitimate and *involuntary* mental illness, started about five years ago with the rise in the number of Mental Health Centers nationwide being *bought out* by Catholic-owned hospitals. And while the trend of Catholic Organization Ownership has stopped, the lumping together has not.

--Do any search on "Wal-Mart" and "healthcare" and you will discover that one of the *richest* corporate entities in America has a policy of a) deliberately underpaying their hourly staff, and deliberately *underemploying* them, and b) forcing people to use Public Assistance to get by as a result.

And in all fairness, it isn't just Wal-Mart. A LOT of employers in America force this issue, creating an income-cliffed, yet *overworked* permanent underclass that *works for a living* but is still not self-sufficient. Meaning?

You have the seeds of a Plantation Economy firmly planted, taking root already, wherein this permanent underclass becomes a *permanent scapegoat* for the rest of society....

And then the Working But On Welfare in turn take it out on the Mopes and *encourage* further police-state-isms, not so much to make *their* lives better, but to make *damn sure* everyone else *suffers* the same way they do.

Spot the trend? ^_^

It's *money*. It's all about the damn money.

If you are a Rich Man you still live in a free country.

If you don't, you won't. And the poorer you are, the more police-state like your nation becomes.

It's class warfare, disguised in the Media as a war of ideology, since "political correctness" is actually a code word people use to *hate* policies that *favor* people who have been traditionally poor and downtrodden by society. And....it's been 26 years since that started....so....

Hating the policy in the Media is no longer enough. Now hating the *people* is encouraged, as is the case with the hurricane Katrina survivors from New Orleans, who went from being Working But Poor to Destitute overnight. Or rather, over a long week as their *whole city* was left to rot, oh yeah, by a clique of *rich, Big Oil Texans*.

But I digress. The point is, this whole lib/con thing is a disguise and a distraction from the real issue, which is....

The CEOs....that One Percenter clique of the filthy rich. They aren't just attacking the poor anymore like they've done historically. Not enough profit margin in that.

They are going after *everyone* outside of their own little clique, which gets smaller each passing day. They are making damn sure *everyone else* is underemployed, barely able to work for a living, *NOT* self-sufficient or wealthy in the slightest. They *want* you, me, *everyone else* to be as dumb, dependent and desperate as the people of New Orleans were in the face of Katrina and in the *teeth* of the treasonous neglect they suffered for *five days* afterward.

Really, if you want to see what the CEOs want for the *rest of us* in terms of a Police State....Look to New Orleans, post-Katrina, during the Military/Blackwater Occupation of the ruins. *That* vision is what makes your One Percenters drool in ecstacy....*that* is what they want for *all of the rest of us*.

They want us Dumb, Desperate, and Dependent, so we have no choice but to either stay *on the Plantation* or to get *Tasered to death* by Rent-a-Cops On Steroids (a.k.a. Blackwater and its SWAT team wannabes).

Bet on it. -_- Thanks for your time.

Answer 8

people need to learn to stay away from those lines.

Answer 9

you bet ye.

Answer 10

maybe