Trinity question...cont'd.?

Question

"We believe in one God...the Holy Trinity"...Um let's see that's three isn't it?

Well the trinity concept is certainly a good primer to get you started down the road of the irrational isn't it.

hamoh10: Why is everyone speaking with jumbled words today?

mariahmathis: that would be quite an achievement if you were a man.

rico3151: Rubbish we don't say eggly trinity, a shell is a shell not an egg, a yolk is a yolk not an egg and so on.

Jesus M: No, I don't understand now and I don't think you do either.

Robert P: I'm glad you seem to think that's a clear enough explanation and that you understand it, I still don't.

Answer 1

I think the 'Trinity is the result of a slippery slope argument gone awry. It's as if they are trying to make it impossible for a sane and rational person to believe in their doctrines. Worked on me; I don't buy any of it

Answer 2

The trinity is the central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Creed, there are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God. Other statements of the dogma emphasize that these three “Persons” are not separate and distinct individuals but are three modes in which the divine essence exists. Thus some Trinitarians emphasize their belief that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Jehovah. This is not a Bible teaching.
What is the origin of the Trinity doctrine?
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”-(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”-(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”-(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.
According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.”-(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.
John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”-(New York, 1965), p. 899.
Even trinitarians acknowledge, neither the word “trinity” nor a statement of the Trinitarian dogma is found in the Bible!

Answer 3

Hi.The word "Trinity" refers to the Three Divine Persons in the one God....God the Father.God the Son. God the Holy Spirit.
In Scripture the word"Trinity" is not used .The actual names of the Divine Persons are used.

MATTHEW 28:16-20
The eleven disciples set out for Galilee,to the mountain where Jesus had arranged to meet them.When they saw him they fell down before him,though some hesitated.Jesus came up and spoke to them.He said,"All authority in Heaven and on Earth has been given to me.Go,therefore,make disciples of all the nations;baptise them in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT, (TRINITY) and teach them to observe all the commands I gave you.And know that I am with you always;yes,to the end of time"
EDIT...To the poster below.There are THREE DIVINE PERSONS in the ONE GOD. Each person is fully God because there is only ONE GOD. I know it is difficult to comprehend but think about it.It cannot be any other way.

EDIT......to Jesus M........You won't find the word "computer" in the Bible also .Does that mean it does not exist ?

God's Mother Mary said (and no you won't find it in the Bible)"You cannot truly believe,be a Christian if you do not respect other Religions as well.You do not really believe in God if you make fun of other Religions.You are offending God "
Does this apply to you?

Answer 4

there is no such word as trinity in the bible. That is the word of the catholics alone who are in false religion and are following the wrong path to the truth.Catholics are not true christian people although they claimed to be.

However, in the oneness of God, there are three entities. Meaning 3 in 1 but not trinity. That is like the 3 in 1 coffee that is being sold now in the market.. Understand? OK?
jtm

Answer 5

The word for one includes the possibility for a composite. Like Adam and Eve became one. This is the same word used in the Hebrew that said,"the Lord our God is one." It is not a word for numerical one. So if you read the Bible and studied the words used and learned what it said THEN you might see things a little different.
God is used as a plurality in the Old Testament. "Let US make man in OUR image." Eloi used for God or the gods when used of God was in the plural Elohim. etc. Just because you can't explain the metaphysics of a multidimensional being doesn' t mean it is unsubstantiated.

Answer 6

Yes. God tell us in the noble Quran to cease in this three trinity idea. God is one. He has no partners, no daughters, sons, wife etc. He is above all that they associate with him. He is the Supreme the one who hold all power, the all-seer the all hearer, and the all- knowing. There is non co equal to him. He rose over his creation, the heavens and the earth and he is above his thrown the way that fits his majesty. He resembles nothing of his creation. He is the creator who all creatures need and he needs nothing. We pray to him only and ask only him for help. He God is only one God. None has the right to be worshiped but him. He is the one who causes life and death and we all will return to him.
These people try to trick you into believing God is one out of three. Jesus (peace be upon him) did not preach this. He said worship your lord and my lord he in ONE. They later added this non sense after the death of Jesus (peace be upon him) Don't fall for it. My God protect you from this and lead you to the right path.

Answer 7

the concept is false, God didn´t divide n three equally part , he is a person, he has a son, his son is a god, as his father but not equal in power or knowledge, "god" is not a name but a title like engineer, the bible apply that term to (YHWH) or Yahweh or Jehovah (Psalms 83:18) , to his first son called Jesus, also to all his sons (angels) in heaven the bible says that they are gods,(Job 1:6 and 2:1 also Psalm 82:1 and 6) even to Satan apply that term. (2 Corithians 4:4)

Answer 8

There is ample testimony to the reality of the Trinity in scripture, and even though God is familiar to us He is also mysterious in His omnipotence too.
We cannot fathom the infinite God as we desire this will be more apparent after we die but remember too that it is human ego and pride that drives us to try and know as God knows and in fact this is the sin of Adam and Eve,to be like God, when even the highest Angels cannot fathom the very depths of Him.

Answer 9

He's an awesome God alright. I'm going to boggle your imagination some more. God has SEVEN SPIRITS!

Rev 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.


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Rev 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and [there were] seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.


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Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Answer 10

There is no Trinity inside the bible !