What can women do?-?

Question

-to help support men and the issues of inequality that they face in todays society?
And if we work together and have some more understanding, what are some of the issues that can be helped to solve?

ΛתŧĩмĩŝãתŊřŷ, what does your answer mean? *confused*

Wow, there really are some huge issues aren't there? What hope is there for anyone if we're all so angry at each other?

Actually, that's a pretty darned good answer ΛתŧĩмĩŝãתŊřŷ.
C'mon ladies, the guys are putting you all to shame so far. Nothing wrong with better rights for women(and we do have it pretty good right now), but c'mon, it isn't fair if we don't help to support men as well and try and have some understanding of what they go through.

Well, I was looking for answers here and both sides make good points. Thing is, sometimes we(whether men or women) would benefit by backing down a little and helping each other out(I am). It would be great too see that happen one day that we can solve problems together, or is it just naive and wishful thinking on my part?

Tera, you have a brilliant mind and I can understand how Feminism wants to keep on striving and never back down. It's not so much that I'm backing down, just I really want to take a step back(put my pride aside) and just listen to what men have to say and hopefully gain some insight and work with everyone on helping both genders work together to solve some issues. Both men and women if they put their minds to it can achieve great things. :) I am only one small person and can't make much difference, but others joining together with their ideas and intelligence can.

Answer 1

I genuinely think there needs to be a collaboration between men & women, as two classes, to find a resolve to the common problems we both encounter. That doesn't mean common to us both, but common to our respective class, or sex.

It is my opinion that men have tried desperately hard to help move women up in the world, and had the majority of the time that we're trying to help promote women, spent watching them behave in ungrateful & condescending manners. Some thanks!

Feminism turns a blind eye to issues men face, in fact - just look at some of the answers below, they follow a common theme: screw men.

We'll never get problems resolved if we only look at half the issue. We want an end to domestic violence - but how can we if some of us are pretending only men commit it? We want an end to child abuse, but we're ignoring half the abusers. We want an end to human right sbeing violated - again, we look at only half of the victims. We want a resolve to cancers... but we spend 40x money on one sex, and barely raise an eyebrow at the other half of those who are dying in the thousands. We want to help people in need, but have a sudden deafness to men committing suicide at 4x the rate of women... the lists go on.

I say, we need to drop the labels (feminism, MRA's, etc.) and become 'humanists' - fight for people, not for sexes. Then, perhaps if there is no longer an agenda to perpetuate - we can actually begin focusing on the issues at hand, rather than pointing the finger of blame.

Answer 2

I like what you've been attempting to accomplish these last couple of days, Shivers. Its clear that you are tired of all the backbiting and mudslinging...and trying to get to the solution.

Whenever it is proposed or mentioned here, I always feel a great deal of shame (as a woman) about the fact that men's health issues are not, seemingly, as important as women's. LycraSpandex makes a great point - running in a marathon for Breast Cancer Awareness. Good on ya Lycra...and truly, men deserve that kind of support from women. Most of the women on this forum, even though they may talk a good game, are married to men and have their children. They should be equally concerned with the high incidence of prostate cancer and the other serious afflictions that men in our society are facing.

I find it sad and pathetic when the women exhibit such hateful and moronic behaviour with their nasty, man bashing comments. I can honestly say that I've really only detected sincere hate and resentment from a couple of the men who post here....the rest are simply having fun at women's expense. Are we not smart enough to know the difference?

The women's movement received tremendous support from men. True, not all - but even the fact that there was any substantial support means that we owe them reciprocal respect and support.

Answer 3

Can't sleep. I'll try again in a bit. Thought I'd chime in.

As far as I can tell YOU are already doing it. You don't generalize about ALL men, you don't mock, shame, and ridicule men, you don't claim that because the few who wield the most power in the world happen to be male, all men have it easy, you don't castigate all men for the misdeeds of a few, you try to understand where men are coming from and try to be supportive when it is presented in a courteous and non-blaming manner.

Being a decent, fair-minded person is really all that any of us can do.

Alas, some people (on all sides) are so filled with hostility that your kindness and thoughtfulness will be ignored. Don't mind them. Thinking you can do anything to ease their anger will do you no good and only make you miserable. (And the same advice goes to men who are attacked by male-bashers.)

Answer 4

Shivers I agree with the sentiment. I can only go from my experience. I work in an industry dominated by women. Previously I worked in industries dominated by men. It seems to me that oppression comes about through aspects of our humanity rather than aspects of gender. I work with a lot of women who follow a feminist perspective and we usually get along fine. I admit that in years past there were vigilante rad fems and yes they made the same mistakes as vigilante rad men. I think the answer lies in recognising, identifying and fixing the behaviour rather than identifying characteristics of the offenders. You’re on to something here … keep talking.

Answer 5

Some of the issues can help men by just including men in existing feminist initiatives. For example men should be protected against domestic violence. In a lot of cases, application of laws so that women are as subject to them as men are will make the laws a lot more fair.

In other cases, such as family law, women really need to fight down feminists. There are a lot of women today who want to get married and are trying to make themselves suitable for marriage, but it's just not enough. As long as the anti-male family law is in place men won't be marrying them. Women really need to help themselves here a bit.

As far as individual issues are concerned, being solution oriented is a good way to go forward. Brainstorm possible solutions to problems. Lioness asked a good question the other day as to what could be done to give men reproductive rights. It didn't go that well.. because a lot of people jumped in saying the problem didn't exist.. I tried to give a good answer but got a lot of thumbs down. Anyway, asking about solutions is a good way to do things.

Answer 6

As you can tell by the answers from the two women above me, feminist women are not at all interested in working side-by-side with men to support men's issues. In the meantime many men will support women's issues, while women will continue to ignore men's issues. Many women are simply just bitter and wrought with misandry.

TERA: You asked me to name one thing. Actually, this is about men's issues, so the gender-opposite would be women's issues, not feminist issues. So for women's issues -- this past Mother's Day, I ran a half-marathon to raise money for Breast Cancer Awareness. There's plenty more, but you just wanted one.

Also, how can you say "I'm not one of them" when you don't know me or what I've done? You asked me a question, then already gave an answer for me (which was wrong).

Shivers: I agree with your statement that the guys are putting all of the sexist women here "to shame". It's as if these women here are only proving our points -- that women are less interested in helping men, than men are interested in helping women. Thanks women, for proving us right! Men are far more caring for the opposite gender than women, and the anti-male responses from the women in this question only supports this notion.

Oh, and I would hardly call these misandrist women "ladies". Ladies don't hate men.

TERA: I like how you edited your answer and deleted everything you said, including asking what I did for women's issues. What have you done for men's issues?

Answer 7

The best thing we can do is fight for male equality in the family court. We shouldn't even think about taking advantage of the "benefits" we get.

Answer 8

I think the answer is simple.

Respect men as your slight superior in marriage
Be ladylike. Don't get drunk, don't do drugs.
Be polite and don't swear all the time.
Do good in your career without having an attitude of entitlement. Focus on family and children. Go to church.

If the women become women again in America men will be happy!!

Answer 9

I would like to see men and women working together to solve issues of inequality. It would be ideal.

Answer 10

Nothing. Women as a whole feel victimized and it's our job as men to take it and shut up. Fortunately we're well suited to the task and will come back into our own eventually.

OK... Ya'll can start piling on the thumbs down now.