When you look a painting in a cave that features a man chasing a mammoth, do you think that this painting was created by corrosion, naturally or that it was painted by someone?
I guess you use your logic and say that it must have been painted by someone rather than to imply that it was create by corrosion or that it has formed naturally…
But when it comes to the theory of the big bang most atheists fail to use their logic.
First, they fail to understand the big bang theory.
Second, they fail to use their logic.
It is a fact that the universe is here because we know duh! Therefore it must have had a beginning and a CREATOR.
If we observe around us, we will notice that the laws governing the universe, the laws governing the atoms are so complex and beautiful that they could not have happened by chance, so if we use the same logic as when we deduced that the painting was created by someone, we can conclude that the universe was created by someone as well.
2007-10-04
17:08:29
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Most atheists are so mad at religion because religion portraits an angry god who punishes etc…
NOTICE THAT: I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GODS JESUS, ALLAH, QUETZALCOATL, RA, ZEUS, ETC…
2007-10-04
17:08:39 ·
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Again, a weakly presented insult of your superiors, kid.
In fact there's no evidence for the existence of any gods.
You seem uninterested in evidence, because you think you have the ability to understand the world through logic. But your reasoning ability is essentially nonexistent.
2007-10-04 17:11:59
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe in humankind's technical and artistic capability for creating the paintings of the Lascaux's caves as much as I believe in mankind's capability of creating out of ignorance as many gods as there are "mysteries". We are capable of the best and the worst, and we're the only ones to praise or blame for both.
What makes you so uncomfortable with the idea of an everlasting Universe forever expanding and compressing in big bangs and big crunches?
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> Atheists why is it so hard for you to believe in God.?
When you look a painting in a cave that features a man chasing a mammoth, do you think that this painting was created by corrosion, naturally or that it was painted by someone?
> It is a fact that the universe is here because we know duh! Therefore it must have had a beginning and a CREATOR.
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2007-10-04 17:26:25
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answered by par1138 • FCD 4
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If you think the universe is too complex to exist without a creator, then where do you think God came from? A God who could create a universe would have to very complex. Then who created God? So saying "God did it" doesn't really get us any closer to understanding how things started.
Just because science has not yet discovered the answer to a natural phenomenon does not mean we need someone to jump in with, "It must be supernatural!"
It justs means we haven't discovered the answer yet.
People used to think God created people, and then through science we discovered evolution. Evolution explains where people and all the other forms of life came from. There is no longer a need for a supernatural explanation to fill the void of our knowledge here.
Your argument is just to seize on anything science hasn't YET provided an answer for and then say that "God" must have done it. I think that's truly delusional.
2007-10-04 17:21:06
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answered by Farty McFly 3
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It seems like I answer this exact same question on here every few days.
Big Bang = stuff just happened to be there, than it exploded
creationism= God just happened to be there and then junk was created.
Contrary to what your pastor might have told you, they aren't mutually exclusive. Had it ever occured to you that God set off the Big Bang?
But if you insist on creating this flase dichotomy, God is an unneccesary construct when thinking about the origins of the universe. There's no evidence that there HAD to be a creator. Further, even if there was one, it doesn't help us explain the origins of the universe.
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How did the universe begin?
God created it.
How does the above add to understanding? It doesn't. I could say that intelligence comes from the Neural Microchip in the brain. Did I explain anything here? ABSOLUTELY NOT because naming something isn't the same thing as describing it.
As far as believing again, I must reiterate that BELIEVING IN A CREATOR DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THE CHRISTIAN CONCEPT OF GOD.
2007-10-04 17:21:04
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answered by Anonymous
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yeah, but that would be stupid. we know that humans produce paintings. it's not a stretch to suppose that prehistoric paintings were produced by prehistoric humans. we don't know much about how universes are formed or how natural laws are decided. certainly we don't have other universes to compare ours with. and there is no independent evidence that gods exist. so your analogy fails. for sure the fact remains that we don't understand exactly how the universe came to be or why the natural laws are what they are, but scientists are working on it. if your belief in god depends on scientists not understanding particular things, you could be on shaky ground there.
you know what, if you just said that you believed, because you have faith and somehow it all just makes sense to you that way, i could kind of respect that. but you lot insist on coming up with the lamest arguments to convince others why they should believe too... perhaps *that's* why i don't believe.
2007-10-04 17:36:24
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answered by vorenhutz 7
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If you bother to do a little reading on the evolution of god during the last 5000 years you would find that man has created many gods. We have evolved from polytheism to monotheism. (Look up these words if they are too big for you) Now after the industrial revolution and the information age those of us who have the insight find that the need for a god is no longer necessary.
You, my friend, on the other hand have not gained this insight. When you do you will see the why humans once needed to believe in a god and now no longer does.
2007-10-04 17:19:15
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answered by Dr. Wu 3
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Some religious people believe the Big Bang theory is God's method of creating the universe...The big bang theory was originally proposed by a Catholic Monk.
But as for me I only find it hard to believe that God wrote a book 3500 years ago and hasn't come back to update it, you can use the argument that Jesus came to update it, but then you also have to accept the argument Mohammed came to update it as well...I think he should come update it again to keep all his crazy followers from killing each other.
2007-10-04 17:36:24
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answered by klover_dso 3
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I'm not denying that the idea of many gods has been around for centuries, I simply can't believe. I'm the type of person that needs to see it to believe it. I cannot just jump into something blindly because someone told me that was the right way. I believe in spirits because I have seen evidence of their existence for myself. When any god shows themselves to me it may change the way I think, but most likely not. I have my own set of spiritual beliefs that bring me peace and great joy. I have tried to believe in god and was not happy in that life style or with myself.
2007-10-04 17:18:15
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answered by Vintage Glamour 6
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This is just to note the answer of Ms. Tash-Viva le Hugs Br…
"Who created the creator? Do you believe the creator to be 'eternal' and thus needing nothing and no one to bring it into existence?
In that case, why is it so hard to believe that the matter which gave rise to the big bang was eternal, thus needing nothing and no one to bring it into existence."
Clearly, you do not really understand the big bang... no 'matter' gave rise to the big bang because matter was still nonexistent at the beginning of the 'big bang'! do more readings on quantum physics.
2007-10-04 17:29:40
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answered by fossegrim 2
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Why should it matter to you that atheists don't believe? Do you have sleepless nights thinking about all the atheists that don't believe in "God"? Why can't you let them believe what they want and you can continue believing what you want? Why do you feel that you have to convert every last atheist into your belief system? Do you have doubts about your own belief, every time that you're reminded that atheists exist? Why can't you accept that people will have different beliefs? Why can't you at least make an attempt to get acquainted with the search function?
2007-10-04 17:15:53
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answered by H.u.S 5
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It is very simple... we are just not so gullible and droolingly stupid as to believe that everything in the universe was poofed into existence by an invisible, magical, all-powerful, supernatural sky-fairy... PARTICULARLY since everywhere we look in the universe, and everything we see TELLS us that complecity has arisen from simplicity. Look up 'self-organizing complex systems' and 'emergence'.
Part of the problem is that you get your 'science' information from 'trusted' religious sources who are, in fact, professional liars whose mission it is to keep their scientifically-ignorant flock or sheeple (that would be you) in a perpetual state of bamboozlement... that's how they keep that 10% tithe coming in.
Your question reveals that the foolishness which serves you as a substitute for knowledge and reason is a logical fallacy (a flaw in thinking) known as the "Argument From Incredulity"... which is a sub-category of the "Argumentum ad Ignorantiam" (Argument From Ignorance). It is also known as the 'Divine Fallacy'. It goes something like this: "I can't conceive of (or imagine) how this might have come to be; therefore, God did it."
That does not point to a limitation of science, or of nature... rather, it illuminates a limitation of YOUR knowledge and/or intellect. Also, it is intellectually dishonest, since it does not (as scientists do) ACKNOWLEDGE the limitation of knowledge... it merely invokes the fanciful idea of a supernatural creator-entity to manifest the ILLUSION that your ideas correlate to 'facts'. Finally... it reveals that you presume, for yourself, a form of omniscience... thinking that goes like this: "If this were understandable, then I should be able to understand (or imagine) it. Since I do NOT (can not) understand (or imagine) it... it logically follows that it is NOT understandable... by ANYONE. Since it is NOT understandable by anyone, it logically follows that it cannot be 'true'. Therefore... God did it." (See? Right back to the Argument from Incredulity.)
'Faith' (wishful, magical thinking) is a lame and pathetic substitute for 'evidence'.
'Belief' (the internalized 'certainty' that you are privy to the 'truth' pertaining to some fundamental aspect of existence and/or reality) is a lame and pathetic substitute for 'knowledge'... i.e., it is the ILLUSION of knowledge.
faith + belief --> self-deception, self-delusion and willful ignorance
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance... it is the illusion of knowledge." ~ Daniel Boorstin
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion." ~ Robert M. Pirsig
THINK about this... seriously... THINK... you believe that a cosmic Jewish zombie, who is his own father, can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced, by a talking snake with legs, to eat from a magical tree... (etc.)... and that there is something horribly wrong with people who ARE NOT so gullible and droolingly stupid as to believe such outrageously ridiculous codswallop.
Now... here's a NEWS FLASH: sane people do not believe such nonsense.
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2007-10-04 17:19:50
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answered by Anonymous
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