Upon the physical death on carries with them not only all they are in terms of memories and identity, but one also carries with them all they enjoy, appreciate and Fear, and so on. Your are still you, but becoming a "higher you" in becoming aware of the "self".
Upon this physical death, one will be greeted buy their inner most expectations as a rule.
This physical-"death" has ocured time and again, yet, you are unaware of this, in most cases, due to agreements with the self in order to fully exprience the physical life.
The NDE, or "Near death experience" is a widely reported phenomenon; personalities whom "die" then "return", have reported a variant of experiences.
For clarification, the NDE is a title and not an accurate discription as the personalities are as physicaly dead as possible; no brian-waves, no-heartbeat, no resperation, no circulation; the body is "dead". The NDE can last from seconds to minutes and in some cases, many hours.
Physical death is a transistion phase and nothing more.
Upon Physical death the personbality leaves the body. Some NDE's report "sliding" out of the body gradually within a few seconds, some report "Finding themselves" floating above thier body and looking at it. Most all report a detatchment from the body as if they view it as "not them".
In short, many report seeing a small speak of light in the distance, growing larger as it appraoches. The light is described as "Love" and in Many Western Cases, Jesus.
In western cases, for the most part, Jesus and the personality go into a full life review, they go over each aspect of the physical life and in the end the question is popped "What have you done with your life"?
There have been know reports of Judgements of self as those whom reviewed their life felt they Judged themselves.
In all NDE cases reviewed each was told it was not thier time and they needed to go back; in many cases the personalities pleaded, to no avail, to remain, yet, they were sent packing.
Many NDE's report taking the grand tour of the Universe within thier plain of existence and were guided either by Jesus himself, or "Angles" or "Guides".
NDE's report they had many questions, the truth in Religion, heaven and hell, is it real...God.....is he real...what is he.....are you God?....And so on.
What is profound and consistent in NDE reports is the knowledge they aquired while "Dead". Many NDE's report asking a question, the having the background to understand the explanation given.
Imagine if one were to ask about "God" and suddenly having ALL the Knowledge of Theology to upload and understand the explanation given? The answers given were instant, mental and non-verbal.
For those whom die with demons they will meet them head on in the afterlife; this is a natural effect of beliefs and not punishment of any kind; the rules of reality dictate emotions creat as do thoughts; yet, no demon has power over any personality and will remain an emotional issue so long as the personality agrees to the demons validity. There are countless entities waiting in the isle's to assist any personality asking for help if found trapped in ones own thoughts in the afterlife; this also counts for those finding them in the very Hell they felt they deserved after death. As Hell has no bite, it is a clue to those finding themselves there that this is a creation of the self and not on from God.
The afterlife is a misnomer. There is no Heaven as there is no Hell; to accept each is to accept a ONE - TWO -THREE-FOUR existence and I tell you this is not so.
One,two,three is Life,death, Heaven or hell and reality is not nearly as simplistic as this DOGMATIC approach to all that is.
All that is, is endless and ever growing. God, that singular concept of Mans own idea, is distorted.
God was the very first Known Consciousness. Man is part of God and this is the short version:
God is many , yet one.
God is a gestalt of awarness, thye Chief energy of all that is. As God is all that is, man is part of God. The Gestalt, a collection of : "all that is" is literal. God, is all knowledge, all creative; to grasp this concept, Consider God being the great collector of all things; God collects all the experiences of all living things as God is In All Living things; How can one be a part of something and not experience it?
This is a clue as to what God is and how intimate "He" is with all things.
ALL THINGS, a golf-ball, has life within, this ball is aware at the molecular level of "itself" and gladly is so as nothing is forced to become what it is.
Mans creation came as the bible would say "and God created the heavens and the Earth, and saw that it was good";
Mankind was a portion of God that wanted to experience the physical life. God , being a multi demensional being made it so and "let go" of that portion of the self and man was incarnated into the Earth; this is recorded as the Garden of Eden incident. This act of God was like a parent seeing a child go to school for the first time; yet in this case, the child failed to return home and we find God searching and trying to awaken the child who slumbers in life "as if" life in the physical is All There Is"; this is Spiritual awakening.
More often than not, personalities encarnate with entire family members time and again to experience the physical life together; this is the rule and not the acception in the majority of cases.
Life journey is endless. After this physical death one may elect to reincarnate again and again, or rest and purhaps move forward to different levels of learning.
Earth is of a demension, the Third Demension. Vibrational levels truely dictate ones reality; there is no reality "more valid" or "better" than the other as "Holyness" is a Concept of mankinds Dogmatic views of "God" and creation".
Earth is a busy place with things going on withour your notice. As demensional vibrations vary from demension to demension, entire civilizations exist within the same space, yet, each in unaware of the other.
On occasion, by a hightend awareness of the individual, a "Ghost" is seen and this is the self, temporarily denying the third demension and "seeing another"; often times the Ghost is as startled as the observer in this demension.
Consider your life a huge gift, and how lucky you are as all options are your for the choosing.
2007-10-05 06:01:27
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answered by Adonai 5
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Blessings. well we can't "prove" anything after death, scientically. distilling all the material that i have read the best explanation i can offer is that you will initially experience what you expected. e.g. if you were a devout christian, loved your mother, and believed in heaven; you would be met by your mother and led thru the experience. i suspect that the terrorists that expected virgins were met by virgins and led into something other than a sexual experience. these personalities would arrive after the 'whitelight' thingy. i sat with my great grand mother as she passed. she went out having a conversation with her mother during the last 10-15 minutes. that was years ago and really made and impression.. on me? For science this is metaphysics, it has nothing to say on the matter. You can believe it if you want but I don't like to believe in things without a reason. Luckily what you believe will not change reality. I can never understand why it's considered 'scientific' to think that our consciousness ceases with our death. It's no more scientific than believing there are fairies at the bottom of the garden. "I think, therefore I am. One must exist in order to experience, and the fact that you experience is convincing proof you exist. We call the planetary 'mud' we wear a 'body' for the sake of convenience. It is simpler to apply a single label to the collection of parts than to acknowledge the feet, legs, arms, hands, head, torso, etc. individually. Indeed, those parts are all comprised of cells, molecules, atoms, etc., so you can see it would be extremely cumbersome to carry on a conversation without considering it as a single thing. But the body is not a single thing. It is a myriad of things - elemental particles - individual existences each with its own identity. If you could disassemble your body - if you had the power to remain conscious as each of those particles were removed one-by-one and reassembled twenty feet away - at what point would your consciousness experience the change in location? Two individual elements cannot become a single identity any more than they can simultaneously occupy the same space. It is not possible to 'be' more than (or less than) a single being. Your corpse is billions of individual beings, so the existence you experience must be that of a single Entity hidden within the assemblage of your body. This isn't rocket science. It is simple logic and elementary deduction. You don't have a soul, you are a soul. And while you are alive, you have a body. When you die, it will fall off (which can be VERY embarrassing as well as downright inconvenient). God bless.
2016-04-07 04:50:05
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answered by Anonymous
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Too many questions mate.
I can only tell you what I have experienced and what I believe.
I have been in a coma twice and not expected to live through the next crucial 12 - 24 hrs 5 times.
No it's nothing unusual, happens to allot of people, I guess there just not on YA R&S right now.
1) NO there is no point of death, in a few cases I floated in and out of it, knowing I was so totally on the verge, yet could not and did not want to speak with anyone.
2) If you do not accept the Lord Jesus as your Savior, (believe He died for your sins) and repent... you know the drill.
3) Hopefully as I have, depending on the situation, I once was panicky at first, but the other times it was really good, in a sence of being Serene.
4) Not if you are a Christian, because you will be in a glorified body and new mind, but you will still be able to remember and know the people you knew on earth here.
5)I doubt it as their is no pain, sickness or diease in Heaven.
6) Yes
7) Depends on what team you bat for!*
8) Refer to Q No. 4
I hope this helped you a little!*
2007-10-05 19:50:31
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answered by ? 6
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There seems to be no clear meaning (other than conventional use of the term) for this "self" you keep referring to. It seems to me to be a product, like fire on a log. When the log is consumed, no more fire. Is it coherent to ask where the fire has gone? That relationship between fuel and flame simply ceased.
How about a sock? If there is a hole in a sock, and "you" darn the sock, is it still the same sock? After the amount of darning has become more than the original material? The human physiology is almost comletely new cells within 3 years.
Do "you" still hold the beliefs you had when you were 3? Does that mean there is a different "you"?
The only aspect of self that seems unchanging (because it has no inherent content to change) is the pure consciousness at the base of mind. Whether that continues after death of the physiology is not yet (scientifically) answered.
2007-10-04 16:51:41
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answered by neil s 7
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Another Sun Man special !
OK, there are a whole bunch of different ways of handling this,
One could be humorous :
Life is just one big, fat, joke, and when you 'die' you get the 'punch-line'.
Or one could be serious :
What happens at the point of 'death' of what ? The physical body ?
That will depend largely on what one believes the physical body is. If one thinks that this is all there is to a human being then, probably, there will be some kind of 'extinguishing' of consciousness. Although the energetic 'spark' that makes a lump of meat a living being will necessarily 'change' to something else, if for no other reason that as the 'First Law of Thermodynamics' states, energy cannot be either created or destroyed.
So I will answer on the basis of my belief that we are two-part beings, an energetic entity, which manifests, in every sense of the word, a physical body.
The 'death' that so many of us spend so much time avoiding thinking about is, to some of us, a rather minor affair, involving the dropping of the 'monkey suit', that we have been driving around the physical realm for a few 'years' of 'Time', as it seems here.
The 'point' of death is debatable, but is not as clear cut as some would like to believe, as with the point of entry the point of exit can vary tremendously. If one follows the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying ( Sogyal Rinpoche ) then those close to a person in this process would do well to avoid too much weeping and wailing in the presence of the 'body' for quite some time after it has apparently 'expired', as this can hinder the entity's withdrawal in peace.
What will happen after this point will, as above, be dependent on the manifested entity's belief system, for a while at least. Most consider that there is a transitional phase in perceived terms, when the energetic ( some call this etheric ) form re-assimilates it's non-physical attributes. I prefer to be more positive and say that this transition takes no 'time' at all.
What will one feel ? Everything other than what the five physical senses gave while manifested in the physical. All of which is available here, but which we have largely suppressed. Everything will be 'felt', rather than experienced in the 'Time'/'Space' of the physical, all of the time, it will be just a question of where one focuses one's attention. This is what we are trying to accomplish here as well, but in non-physical it is the 'natural' condition.
One is the latest in a series of manifestations, it could be thousands, or even an infinite number, and when one is no longer manifested here in the physical all of those manifestations are accessible, so one will still be 'oneself', but 'oneself' will include all of one's 'Selves'.
The emotions here are all mirrored in the non-physical, but do not have the same 'effects'. There is no 'duality' in the non-physical, and thus there are no 'negative' emotions. All of those things that we may perceive as 'negative' here, in this dense, heavy, realm, have a 'positive' equivalent. However, emotion will most assuredly 'propel' you, in fact that is an excellent description of exactly how I understand that things do work. To be in a particular 'place' one doesn't need to 'travel' in the physical sense, one merely need to turn one's attention to that state of 'beingness'.
Whether an entity experiences such concepts as 'heaven' or 'hell' after the physical transition that we call 'death' is an interesting point. Given that both are states of 'being', rather than physical 'places' it is highly improbable that one would experience that 'state' for all 'eternity' as many fear-based religious systems have tried to evoke. But, it is possible that some, with deeply ingrained beliefs about these things may go through this experience during the 'transitional' phase that I tried to describe above.
I believe that we are 'greeted' by whoever we believe that we will be 'greeted' by. In my case, for example, I mostly experience this world in a condition of 'Oneness', and thus I feel no great need for a 'welcoming committee'. It will be wondrous enough just to relax back into the 'One'.
After physical 'death' one remains the 'Sum of all the Hearts', and one returns to that awareness, none of the experiences are 'lost', but rather are held in a much broader persepective, the difference between those 'dear' to you during this manifestation and those who may not have seemed so 'dear' will be so blurred as to be almost non-existent. In short there are no 'Gods' 'Demons, 'Enemies' beyond this place, all Consciousness is 'Dear'. :-)))
{{{{{{Cosmic Life}}}}}}}
2007-10-05 04:34:53
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answered by cosmicvoyager 5
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(((Sunman))) While I have yet to experience death in this lifetime, I will tell you what I believe is to come:
The alchemy of our thoughts and feelings is what fuels our physical body. When this is no longer possible, our thoughts and feelings continue strictly in an enlightened state. Our kundalini rises through the body, and rather than remaining vibrant within the sushumna, releases completely, preferably exiting through the crown, and detaches from the medulla oblongata, creating a free, unattached astral energy being. This energy must review the life it just lived. This energy, or each of us, must face ourselves. It is our judgment, and is called the Bardo experience. During the Bardo our higher consciousness reveals to us the good and bad about our previous life. Principally, it is the bad that causes us to have a difficult time transiting through the entire Bardo experience. We must find a way to forgive ourselves our trespasses, so that we can let then experience go and allow ourselves to welcome the purity of the Oneness of Us All, based strictly in unconditional love.
Once we have forgiven ourselves, then we can align ourselves with the All That Is, and reunite with our Source.
Hell is not being able to make it through the Bardo. Hell is not forgiving. And if you believe in a specific sense of Source, God, Goddess, Hell is bereft of that light and thus the energy of Darkness reigns.
Sunman, I challenge and encourage you to face your Bardo here, for in so doing you clear the pathway toward the true journey's end. For by clearing the way now, we have a greater potential to realize the concept of ascension rather than facing death at all ....
2007-10-05 08:28:56
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answered by Shihan 5
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The Apostle Paul wrote, "To be absent from the body is to be present with The LORD." So, the believer goes immediately to the presence of The Lord.
You will still be you. There has never been another you and there will never be another one like you. You are uniquely made. You are God's "Mona Lisa" and you are of infinite value to Him.
Yes there is a heaven and a hell. Lots of stories in the Bible. Check them out.
No human can say if you are going to heaven or hell. Only you and your maker knows for sure.
After death, you will still have your memory and personality. You will recognize friends and loved ones in heaven, where suffering and sorrow is no more. Hell if a place of spiritual darkness.
Read the story of "Lazarus and the rich man" in the Bible for the best description of the hereafter that has ever been written.
God bless you. I'm praying for you.
2007-10-04 16:22:02
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answered by TubeDude 4
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What happens at the point of death is different for everyone.
Heaven or hell is a place for everyone that is to be their final fate.
Once when I was reading the bible in my room one afternoon as a young girl, and for some unknown reason I don't remember, the thought of death came to me. I put my thought foward to what had came to me, and in that instance I heard a voice tell and show me that when I die, "It will be anything you want it to be". Than I saw a rainbow of many lights and the feeling I had was so peaceful and calm it left me speechless. In later times of my childhood after I met with this vision I started playing dead and wondering what it would be like to see my death this way as I was told and shown.
I believe in a lot of cases on average when people leave this earth their spirit rises from their body. Whatever journey they have to travel from there is done by them and anyone else who may be on the same path. Hopefully, they will have some good guidence to guide them through the spirit world to make it safely home.
I believe that in cases of wicked people, when they die and leave this world. There spirit is quickened to a place they least expect. Depending on how much of a wicked life they lived it will determine what part of "hell" they go to. When a person lives a cold hearted life they usually end up spiritually blind, or something missing from there being. Most likely when they get into the bad part of the spirit world, they will never make it out because whatever it was that they lost serving the life of wickedness is what they will most likely need to make it through. There they shall wait and endure until Judgement Day! The Day of The Lord.
I believe that when a person dies and is lifted in the spirit world the way they are when they get there has a lot to do with the way they died, felt, and many other circumstances that surrounded their death.
Of course when it is a Faithful believer in God Almighty, His followers have all the guidence they need to get home quickly!
As for myself, death is an issue that I know my life will finally find peace. Because I am familiar with the spirit world through my dreams I know that it will be a total reality where ever it may be that I travel. The feelings that I know will be with me are the feelings that the spirit world is not limited to me. The emotions that I have come to know in this life are destined to deepen, strengthen, in finish with fierce Faith when my life ends here on earth.
There are a couple different ways that will come to me to get me into my next life. These I will keep close with me to watch and see which way will turn out. Which ever one is chosen for me I know I will be prepared.
When I take a look at my death in the idea of having people waiting for me when I get there to being alone is one that I know I can handle no matter which way it comes. Great, if there shall be people waiting for me. If it were to be my fate and find myself alone when I get in the spirit world. Than more power to me because I love doing everything by myself and am used of it. I will definately look foward to ravaging my way through anything and everything to make it home. Even there I will look foward to meeting many different spirits, beings, and people. Being myself is something that has been the only way I have ever known. There is no change in my being myself. I am not worried for my loved ones in any of these manners because in their journey they shall find what belongs to them. As will every one soul that has been created by God Almighty.
2007-10-04 21:04:45
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answered by white_painted_lady 5
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Aside from the comments of "saul74" above being extremely funny [if unwarranted], I will say this.
There is the reference to the "dying daily" that you may be familiar with, and which many, many people can shed some light upon and share.
2007-10-04 16:57:03
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answered by ? 6
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My theory is simple.
Given the laws of probability and assuming we're living in an infinite multiverse as many scientist theorize:
There is good chance given enough time (maybe even trillions of years our time), someone who looks like me and with a similar personality, will probably come into existence again either in this Universe (assuming the cyclical big crunch/big bang theory is true) or another Universe somewhere else.
There's my immortality.
2007-10-04 16:31:03
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answered by Stedway 4
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According the the VERY best of experts in the field, at the moment of our deaths, we DIE! No further information is available.
BB,
Raji the Greenwitch
2007-10-05 13:18:40
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answered by Raji the Green Witch 7
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