Victory in general, or victory "for Asatru?"
I must confess I don't see Asatru as some kind of monolithic, pan-Germanic altreligion entity *capable* of victory in that sense . . . all true heathenry is local, IMHO. But victory in terms of the reawakening of the Northern European Folkways would be the revival of the Cults (Cult of Freyr, Cult of Odhinn, Cult of Nerthus, usw) the establishment of new Cult centers (think Uppsala in Texas, lol), and a return to the agrarian rites and seasonal rhythms of our ancestors.
Nor do I think "victory" is the RIGHT term. We are *not* a One True Faith™ folkway, nor in competition for converts. Despite the number of spineless, PC-coddling websites out there blandly asserting that "anyone who wants to be Asatru can be," this is an indigenous ethnocultural worldview and belief system. It's for people of a particular ancestry . . . and not even all of THEM.
All that said, I'd still just love to see a Plow Charming involving a modern John Deere tractor. *G*
2007-10-04 14:05:48
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answered by Boar's Heart 5
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I've been Asatru(seriously) for 7+ years now and it's been very rewarding, a struggle at times, but life in general has been better when I'm honoring the Gods and living up to my standards. I've fought many battles and I continue to as I'm paralyzed now due to a car accident I had when I was going down the wrong path in life and call it the will of their Gods, Wyrd or whatever you want but it made me have to slow down and focus on what's important in life. I was not living up to my standards, my oaths or Asatru. So Victory to me is following through on an oath or promise. Setting a goal and following through to see the rewards! That and I try to enlighten as many people as possible :-) When I do it's a major victory to me!
2014-08-25 10:42:24
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answered by Buzz 2
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For me personally it would be winning the grand Erasmus knight tournament in Predjama (but then again, you can't take me seriously when I'm thinking with my sword and helmet instead of my brain).
That's the closest to an actual victory in battle - to win a reenactment tournament with cca 200 participants and thousands of spectators. I came to the finale once, that was pretty amazing.
In everyday life, victory means achieving my goals for me, feeling peaceful, living prosperous and keeping my head above the water. Which isn't always so easy as it seems.
Edit: did you mean victory for "asatru" or victory for an "asatruar"?
For asatru as a faith, victory would be having it present in every country of origin (Norse, Germanic, central European), in a sufficient concentration that whoever wanted to practice it wouldn't have such problems finding information, teachers, gothar and people who think alike.
A kindred accessible to every believer would be a great big victory here in Europe.
2007-10-04 20:00:00
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answered by Ymmo the Heathen 7
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Victory from what I understand, means that Odin is on our side.
I don't know what victory is to Asatru, as I don't know if I can consider myself an actual part of the religion (I have no kin so I I feel uncomfortable calling myself such). But I think it will be a victory for heathens when our old religious symbols are finally taken off of the anti defamation league's roster.
http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/Pagan_graphics.asp
I plan on getting a tattoo of Thor's Hammer, Moljinir, as my surname has the word "hammer" in it. (And of course Thor is one of my fav's)
2007-10-05 18:12:35
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answered by Anonymous
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Victory for Ásatrú? Victory can be celebrated collectively, but the religion itself does not aim for victory. Victory is the successful completion of a deed, and a religion cannot be victorious without a specific battle, specific army representing it. Of course during Christian conversion there were armies representing the ancestral ways and those representing the Christian piece of **** ways. Unfortunately, we all know who won those specific battles (though there were victories on the heathen side, against Harald Bluetooth and other kings across Scandinavia). But now it is kingroups, families, friends, and individuals who must fight for victory (I would stress using the word sigr, Sieg, or something of that nature instead) in a given battle. But what battle (other than an 'idea battle,' or something of that sort) is being fought?
2007-10-05 11:44:26
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answered by viking_hearted 2
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Not Asatru, Odinist, or Heathen.... But I hope that Hellenic Polytheists can count as friends *grins*
Victory is best defined for me by Leonidas and his 300 Spartans.... Doing what you have to to accomplish your goal while being willing to accept the sacrifices required......
2007-10-04 13:29:55
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answered by Anne Hatzakis 6
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2016-10-10 08:05:26
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answered by Anonymous
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Taking the wording of the statement, "What does victory for Asatru mean to you?" My answer would be that victory for Asatru would mean to me that we, Asatruar, could practice ALL aspects of our religion and belief with NO interferance form any NON-Asatruar under ANY circumstances whatsoever. It would mean that we had become completely self-governing and no longer had to answer to any exteral authority whatsoever.
2007-10-04 18:54:36
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answered by kveldulf_gondlir 6
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"Victory" for Asatru, in my opinion, would be the collective reawakening of the pan-Germanic or Nordic folksoul, wherein all the descendants of the Gods hear their call and answer it.
That would be a victory of epic proportions.
2007-10-04 14:46:47
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answered by Anonymous
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It's hard to describe, really. I guess I see it as the concept of overcoming obstacles and other things that are against you (I'm tired so my vocabulary has flown out the window) especially when it involves overcoming incredible odds that are stacked against you. That's the best way I can describe it.
2007-10-04 13:31:47
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answered by Abriel 5
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