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Countless documents have shown that the founding fathers intended for this country to have no allegiance to religion. What do you think?

2007-10-04 10:29:15 · 27 answers · asked by alex e 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Those of you who say "they put it in for a reason" should know it was only added in 1954, to contrast the communist Soviet Union. You may also want to look up the Treaty of Tripoli. Lastly this has little to do with my being an Atheist but more with my concern for the separation of church and state in the US.

2007-10-04 15:14:53 · update #1

27 answers

Irony: splitting up the phrase "one nation indivisible".

2007-10-04 10:39:16 · answer #1 · answered by Doc Occam 7 · 0 2

That is not quite correct. The founders did not want the nation to fall into the hands of a religious sect or denomination. They overwhelmingly agreed that christianity was the best faith.It was even considered part of common law. Over a hundred years before the constituition was signed, the first educational bill was passed in America. It was called 'the old deluder satan act'. It called for a school to be provided in every community for the purpose of providing a bible based education. They reasoned that if the people were educated in the bible they would not be deceived into adopting a certain religious creed to be used with government authority. But they believed the gospel of Jesus Christ should be understood by all citizens. That is why in the constituition it says,' the congress shall pass no law pertaining to the establishment of religion, NOR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF'.

2007-10-04 17:44:04 · answer #2 · answered by JesusIsTheAnswer 4 · 1 0

A. You are OBVIOUSLY looking at the wrong documents.
B. Does it really offend you? If it does, don't say it!

Are you that big of a pantywaste that this bothers you?

You atheist crack me up. I served in Desert Storm and witnessed a lot of atheist quit their ignorant views the second gunfire went overhead.

If you, and all the loser liberals on this post don't like the pledge, by all means, LEAVE! Go over to Iran where the "Turkish Pimp" (Achmadinejad) will give you all the freedoms that you are not getting here. LEave and take Hillary with you!

2007-10-04 18:34:21 · answer #3 · answered by witness 4 · 0 1

It doesn't really matter if "under God" is left in or taken out......as we will ALL see in the very near future, the governments of mankind, with their inherent inability to solve human problems that are rooted in humanity's inability to choose the right way to live (Proverbs 16:25), will be replaced by a form of government that can at last solve those problems. Jesus Christ Himself will rule the nations of the earth!

This is the gospel—the good news—that Jesus Christ taught. The focus of Jesus Christ's message was the announcement of a coming world government (Luke 21:31). This government will not be ruled by "selfishly motivated" humans but by Jesus Christ Himself, under the direction of Almighty God!

2007-10-04 17:50:24 · answer #4 · answered by TIAT 6 · 0 0

Oh bull crap, they put it there for a reason, do you honestly think they thought, well I guess if they feel like it, they can just omit things that they don't like. If they didn't truly believe in him they wouldn't have put it in there. It should not be removed just because some people decide it doesn't fit in to their beliefs,

I will never understand the claim that "God" and any use if it, is offensive to atheists. Why would they get offended by something they claim doesn't exist. It is like Santa at Christmas, a lot of people don't celebrate Christmas, but you don't see a huge fight to take out Santa, Because he truly doesn't exist, yet people fight and fight to take out Christ, because they think it will offend the non-believers. Well I don't believe in Santa and it doesn't offend me, so if you don't believe in Christ or God, then it shouldn't offend you!!!

2007-10-04 17:51:55 · answer #5 · answered by nanners454 5 · 0 1

When I was a kid we said the Pledge of Allegiance in school and it was always "indivisible."
I don't know when exactly they changed it to "under God."
Clearly, not every American worships the God of the Bible.
Athiesm is quite widespread.
Neo Paganism is quite widespread.
There are a lot of Hindu immigrants from India.
There are a lot of Buddhist immigrants from China and elsewhere in Asia.
I myself am an Evangelical Christian and would not be offended if it reverted to "indisible."
Also, America is not one nation....it is not one people, that is. It is a melting pot of many nations. It is a country, but not a nation. Biblically, nation refers to a people who are of one ethnic commonality.
So while they're at it, change "nation" to "country"

2007-10-04 17:45:34 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Yes and only because it should be stated as originally written and "under god" is not part of the original wording - it was added by the Eisenhower administration during the cold war era.

2007-10-04 17:34:40 · answer #7 · answered by genaddt 7 · 1 1

I'm with five o'clock shadow on this one. To quote the prophet Clinton, "One nation under a groove-- getting down just for the funk of it."

Seriously, the "under God" tidbit was added in 1954 in response to Cold War fears about "godless" Communism. ("In God We Trust" replaced "E Pluribus Unum" two years later.) We should really get back to the constitutional principles that made America strong to begin with.

2007-10-04 17:39:02 · answer #8 · answered by marbledog 6 · 2 2

I'm wondering why exactly you guys need a Pledge of Allegiance in the first place.

Most other countries seem to get along just fine without a dogmatic recitation of patriotic jingoism each morning. In fact, most of the nations that do have one are totalitarian dictatorships.

Why not just drop the whole unseemly ritual?

2007-10-04 17:36:47 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

Make it politically correct:

I pledge alligence
to the non-specific symbol
of a country who's power is eminent.
And to that non-ordained government
to what is consentually agreed upon,
one body of persons, under a non-denominational Being,
indivisble, with non-persecution and equal treatment sought of by the people.

2007-10-04 17:34:43 · answer #10 · answered by Sir Nigel 6 · 1 3

Yes! should be taken out!... Its offensive for an Atheist, to be forced to pledge to any Gods!...
A pluralistic society should respect all, not just the believers.

2007-10-04 17:43:13 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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