Gen 49:10? Would like both Christian or Jewish Opinions only please.?

Question

Please provide insight about this verse and its purpose. Thank you in advance!

Thank you for the Jewish answer, this is one of the things i wanted to know. But I would tend to disagree because even though Judah, during the seventy-year period of their captivity at Babylon, had been deprived of national sovereignty, they never lost their “tribal staff,” their national identity; and they always had their own “lawgivers” (judges) even in captivity (Ezra 1:5, 8)

Answer 1

Genesis 49:10
"The scepter will not depart from Judah,
nor the ruler's staff from between his feet,
until he comes to whom it belongs
and the obedience of the nations is his."


It speaks of Christ....it's a Messianic verse. A scepter was a rod which denoted authority......and Jesus Christ has all the authority over mankind now.

Answer 2

THe scepter is the authority to rule and Shiloh is a cryptic name for the Messiah. It is not a proper name but rather it refers to a town where the tabernacle was later established.. It is the turning point whereby Judah would gain its superiority. Christians believe with Jesus being born in Judah and he is Messiah that the scepter will never leave him and He will someday set up His kindom. He is the lion mentioned a few verses before and soon he will return as in Revelation as the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

Answer 3

A Messianic Prophecy.
Based upon the Abrahamic Covenant, and that the Jews would be blessed through the seed of Isaac, Judah's grandfather.
Judah would be the tribe through which Messiah was to come.
The Sceptre signified authority of the throne. The Sceptre would not depart (leave) from between the feet of Judah.
Messiah would come from the loins of Judah.

Answer 4

"The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be."

This verse is a prophesy that the Messiah will come from the tribe of Judah.

Answer 5

Judah was one of the tribes of Israel and was the name of the leader of the tribe. The scepter, a symbol of his leadership, would not depart, or loose his position as leader until Shiloh, which means, " he to whom it belongs". This could also be the returning of the Christ, whom all will bow down and worship Him. According to the Jewish prophecy, all of the tribes will return, and will be obedient.

Answer 6

This is a reference to Jesus Christ - that He would rule as Prince of Peace.

This is seen in Revelation 5:5 "But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals."

There is an interesting series of promises made to the ancestors of Jesus Christ - that their descendant would one day be great. Consider:
Eve - her Seed would crush Satan
Abraham - his Seed all nations would be blessed through
Judah - the rod of authority would be in his house
Ruth - 4:14-15 (possibly just her son, but I think messianic)
David - the throne would remain in his family forever
Mary - her child would be Immanuel

Answer 7

Here's the Jewish perspective:

Christians often use this verse as a prooftext for their messianic claims. But if this text is taken to mean that the scepter shall not depart from Judah until the Messiah comes, as the Christians assert, we are faced with an insoluble historical inaccuracy. The last king from the tribe of Judah, Zedekiah, was taken captive about 586 B.C.E. Following the return to Zion from the Babylonian exile, the Jews were continually subject to foreign domination--Persian, Greek, Roman--with only a brief interlude of independence during the Maccabean period (165 B.C.E. to 63 B.C.E.), whose rulers were members of the tribe of Levi. Thus, there was a period of some six hundred years, prior to the birth of Jesus, during which the scepter of leadership had departed from the tribe of Judah.

In view of this incontrovertible fact, we are compelled to interpret the verse under discussion somewhat differently from the reinterpretation imposed upon it by Christian theology. What is meant by the phrase "the scepter shall not depart" is that the right to the scepter of leadership shall always remain within the tribe of Judah, regardless of who is actually exercising authority over Israel at any given time. What is meant by the phrase "until Shiloh comes" is not that at this time the scepter of leadership will depart from Judah, but, on the contrary, from that time on, the scepter will remain in actuality within the tribe of Judah.

The adverb 'ad ("until") is used in a similar sense in a number of instances; for example: "For I will not leave you until I have done that which I have spoken to you" (Genesis 28:15), and "No man shall be able to stand before you until you have destroyed them" (Deuteronomy 7:24). Did God leave Jacob after doing all that He promised him? Were the enemies of Israel who were killed able to stand after they were destroyed?

Even after the Messiah comes the scepter will still belong to Judah. The right to the scepter will never depart from Judah until the Messiah comes, at which time his scepter will be wielded over all nations (Isaiah 11); up to that time it was wielded over Israel alone. That this Messiah is not Jesus can best be seen from the investigation of the various messianic claims made by Christians on his behalf. As for Genesis 49:10, there is nothing in it to suggest that it applies to Jesus.

Answer 8

God chose Judah to be the ancestor of Israels line of kings..

Answer 9

. It should be the royal tribe, and the tribe from which Messiah the Prince should come: The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, till Shiloh come, v. 10. Jacob here foresees and foretels, (1.) That the sceptre should come into the tribe of Judah, which was fulfilled in David, on whose family the crown was entailed. (2.) That Shiloh should be of this tribe—his seed, that promised seed, in whom the earth should be blessed: that peaceable and prosperous one, or the Saviour, so others translate it, he shall come of Judah. Thus dying Jacob, at a great distance, saw Christ’s day, and it was his comfort and support on his death-bed. (3.) That after the coming of the sceptre into the tribe of Judah it should continue in that tribe, at least a government of their own, till the coming of the Messiah, in whom, as the king of the church, and the great high priest, it was fit that both the priesthood and the royalty should determine. Till the captivity, all along from David’s time, the sceptre was in Judah, and subsequently the governors of Judea were of that tribe, or of the Levites that adhered to it (which was equivalent), till Judea became a province of the Roman empire, just at the time of our Saviour’s birth, and was at that time taxed as one of the provinces, Lu. 2:1. And at the time of his death the Jews expressly owned, We have no king but Caesar. Hence it is undeniably inferred against the Jews that our Lord Jesus is he that should come, and that we are to look for no other; for he came exactly at the time appointed. Many excellent pens have been admirable well employed in explaining and illustrating this famous prophecy of Christ. 5. It should be a very fruitful tribe, especially that it should abound with milk for babes, and wine to make glad the heart of strong men (v. 11,12)—vines so common in the hedge-rows and so strong that they should tie their asses to them, and so fruitful that they should load their asses from them—wine as plentiful as water, so that the men of that tribe should be very healthful and lively, their eyes brisk and sparkling, their teeth white. Much of what is here said concerning Judah is to be applied to our Lord Jesus. (1.) He is the ruler of all his father’s children, and the conqueror of all his father’s enemies; and he it is that is the praise of all the saints. (2.) He is the lion of the tribe of Judah, as he is called with reference to this prophecy (Rev. 5:5), who, having spoiled principalities and powers, went up a conqueror, and couched so as none can stir him up, when he sat down on the right hand of the Father. (3.) To him belongs the sceptre; he is the lawgiver, and to him shall the gathering of the people be, as the desire of all nations (Hag. 2:7), who, being lifted up from the earth, should draw all men unto him (Jn. 12:32), and in whom the children of God that are scattered abroad should meet as the centre of their unity, Jn. 11:52. (4.) In him there is plenty of all that which is nourishing and refreshing to the soul, and which maintains and cheers the divine life in it; in him we may have wine and milk, the riches of Judah’s tribe, without money and without price, Isa. 55:1.

Answer 10

There's too much to type.
But this website bascially sums it up:

http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/genesis_49_10.htm